AFLD to re-test samples from Tour 08

finchy
finchy Posts: 6,686
edited July 2009 in Pro race
The AFLD is going to re-test samples from suspect riders in the 2008 TdF.

They're going to be looking for CERA.

According to l'Equipe. 15 riders are concerned, all of them in the Top 20.

Could be fun!

http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breves20 ... estes.html

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  • teagar
    teagar Posts: 2,100
    I did miss the obligatory doping problems this tour. Mabe the AFLD are trying to make up for it.
    Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.
  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    teagar wrote:
    I did miss the obligatory doping problems this tour. Mabe the AFLD are trying to make up for it.

    If you're feeling nostalgic, you should start taking magazine cuttings of classic dope test positives, put them in a scrapbook to pore over in years to come.

    "Ah, yes, I remember Ricco," you'll say with dewy eyes.
  • teagar
    teagar Posts: 2,100
    johnfinch wrote:
    teagar wrote:
    I did miss the obligatory doping problems this tour. Mabe the AFLD are trying to make up for it.

    If you're feeling nostalgic, you should start taking magazine cuttings of classic dope test positives, put them in a scrapbook to pore over in years to come.

    "Ah, yes, I remember Ricco," you'll say with dewy eyes.

    I did find myself trying to find Ricco's 2008 "win" on youtube last night.

    Oh dear!
    Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.
  • samb01
    samb01 Posts: 130
    Great news!
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    So 15 in the top 20 have have posted suspicious numbers in the tests. That's really going to through a spanner in the works.

    Here are the top 20:
    1 Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Team CSC - Saxo Bank 87.52.52
    2 Cadel Evans (Aus) Silence - Lotto 0.58
    3 Bernhard Kohl (Aut) Gerolsteiner 1.13
    4 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank 2.10
    5 Christian Vande Velde (USA) Team Garmin-Chipotle p/b H30 3.05
    6 Frank Schleck (Lux) Team CSC - Saxo Bank 4.28
    7 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 6.25
    8 Kim Kirchen (Lux) Team Columbia 6.55
    9 Alejandro Valverde Belmonte (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 7.12
    10 Tadej Valjavec (Slo) AG2R La Mondiale 9.05
    11 Vladimir Efimkin (Rus) AG2R La Mondiale 9.55
    12 Andy Schleck (Lux) Team CSC - Saxo Bank 11.32
    13 Roman Kreuziger (Cze) Liquigas 12.59
    14 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 19.23
    15 Amaël Moinard (Fra) Cofidis - Le Crédit par Téléphone 23.31
    16 Mikel Astarloza Chaurreau (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 23.40
    17 Kanstantsin Siutsou (Blr) Team Columbia 24.55
    18 Alexandre Botcharov (Rus) Crédit Agricole 27.11
    19 Dmitriy Fofonov (Kaz) Crédit Agricole 28.31
    20 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas 28.33

    Well, Kohl and Fonfonov have been sacked and banned already for positive dope tests. Casar and Moinard are generally thought of as clean riders. How many of the remaining 16 riders are "calm"?
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    And some of those riders were on the list of suspicious for the AFLD last year. There's a handful I would say are likely but 15?

    And they were informed by the AFLD already - The information coming from "various sources" but not the passport?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • jim one
    jim one Posts: 183
    Was Vdv blood profile not released publicly and then analysed by an expert last year in an article stating that he was clean or am I imagining things :?:
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    jim one wrote:
    Was Vdv blood profile not released publicly and then analysed by an expert last year in an article stating that he was clean or am I imagining things :?:

    Yes.

    Ashenden said he was clean.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    Kléber wrote:
    So 15 in the top 20 have have posted suspicious numbers in the tests. That's really going to through a spanner in the works.

    Here are the top 20:
    1 Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Team CSC - Saxo Bank 87.52.52
    2 Cadel Evans (Aus) Silence - Lotto 0.58
    3 Bernhard Kohl (Aut) Gerolsteiner 1.13
    4 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank 2.10
    5 Christian Vande Velde (USA) Team Garmin-Chipotle p/b H30 3.05
    6 Frank Schleck (Lux) Team CSC - Saxo Bank 4.28
    7 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 6.25
    8 Kim Kirchen (Lux) Team Columbia 6.55
    9 Alejandro Valverde Belmonte (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 7.12
    10 Tadej Valjavec (Slo) AG2R La Mondiale 9.05
    11 Vladimir Efimkin (Rus) AG2R La Mondiale 9.55
    12 Andy Schleck (Lux) Team CSC - Saxo Bank 11.32
    13 Roman Kreuziger (Cze) Liquigas 12.59
    14 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 19.23
    15 Amaël Moinard (Fra) Cofidis - Le Crédit par Téléphone 23.31
    16 Mikel Astarloza Chaurreau (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 23.40
    17 Kanstantsin Siutsou (Blr) Team Columbia 24.55
    18 Alexandre Botcharov (Rus) Crédit Agricole 27.11
    19 Dmitriy Fofonov (Kaz) Crédit Agricole 28.31
    20 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas 28.33

    Well, Kohl and Fonfonov have been sacked and banned already for positive dope tests. Casar and Moinard are generally thought of as clean riders. How many of the remaining 16 riders are "calm"?

    6 of these come from teams with internal anti-doping programmes.

    I wonder if the AFLD meant the revised top 20 (after Kohl and Fofonov) or the top 20 as it stood in Paris?
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    So, 15 of the top 20? Wonder which 5 are off the hook? Why not just retest all 20?

    Fofonov apart there are 5 riders from French teams. I hope the AFLD is not so blatantly nationalistic to consider everyone from a French team, and only them, beyond suspicion....
  • stagehopper
    stagehopper Posts: 1,593
    Perhaps they've developed a more sensitive CERA test? Surely most of the above will have had their samples tested for CERA already last year.
    @stagehopper
  • bikerZA
    bikerZA Posts: 314
    If true sounds like 2008 Tour will be a write-off. Will be interesting to see what happens.
    cyclecomparison.com
  • aurelio_-_banned
    aurelio_-_banned Posts: 1,317
    Wouldn't it be great if a test for autologous blood doping was developed and the AFLD tested the samples taken during the 2000 -2007 Tours as well?
  • samb01
    samb01 Posts: 130
    aurelio wrote:
    Wouldn't it be great if a test for autologous blood doping was developed and the AFLD tested the samples taken during the 2000 -2007 Tours as well?
    Kinda, but realistically, we already know what the results would be. Atleast pre Operacion Puerto.

    Very much looking forward to the fall out of these new tests. Quite frankly, high profile dope busts is my favourite aspect of pro cycling!
  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    aurelio wrote:
    Wouldn't it be great if a test for autologous blood doping was developed and the AFLD tested the samples taken during the 2000 -2007 Tours as well?

    Any particular riders in mind? :wink:
  • stagehopper
    stagehopper Posts: 1,593
    edited July 2009
    aurelio wrote:
    Wouldn't it be great if a test for autologous blood doping was developed and the AFLD tested the samples taken during the 2000 -2007 Tours as well?

    Prtobably have to miss out 2000-2002, as I think there's a 6 year statute of doping offences.
    @stagehopper
  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    The AFLD warned the concerned riders before this year's Tour started that the samples are going to be re-tested. Maybe the surprising performance of some of the riders will soon be explained.... :twisted:

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