Campag Bora Ultra two V lightweight standard c iii clincher

nicensleazy

A friend of mine is looking to buy either the Bora Ultra Two's or the Lightweights. Any folk out there have any experience or information on these wheels . cheers

fast as fupp

ive seen them on tv and they both look very nice :shock:

magliaceleste

Boras are tubular only I think, not clincher. The Bora One will be out shortly, it's a bit heavier but cheaper, again tubular only.

James_London

In favour of Lightweight C:

- Lighter weight than Boras - Stiffer than Boras depending on the spoke count you choose. How important this is will depend on your 'friend's' weight and intended use - LW bragging rights

In favour of Bora Ultra 2:

- Cheap (vs LWs) - They're tubulars! I wouldn't get clincher LWs. Although adapting to using tubulars takes a while, they're the better option for full carbon wheels. A front blowout on a fast descent and the chances of the clincher rims coming out of it well are slim. If you have to have LWs, be a man and get tubulars! - Relatively easy to repair and maintain (if your LWs can be repaired they'll need to be sent away for surgery) - Normally run truer than LWs which like all full carbon wheels are often up to 0.5mm out of true - Better wet braking than LWs though depends on your pad choice

For aerodynamics they're about the same though the wider LW spokes require a little more attention in a crosswind. The Mavic Cosmic Carbone Ultimates are worth considering as a poor man's LW - and stiffer - though worth swapping out the stock Mavic bearings for some Ceramic Speeds.

APIII

A couple of other things.
The bearings on the front LW are somewhat exposed to the elements making them less than ideal for wet weather. (I'm referring to the G2 tubular version, but assume the clinchers are the same?)
Also, I 'heard' that there is now some sort of insurance available from Lightweight. You pay 10% of the purchase price and you are covered for any accidental damage for 3 years. (It wasn't available when I bought my tubs a couple of years ago)

nicensleazy

thanks very much

poucher

Had the Bora's on for most of the year now :-



I thought long and hard about shelling that much money out on a set of wheels, but I'm glad I did it now, they are nowhere near as delicate as people make out, they are very light stiff, and climb very well.
The braking is pretty good in the dry, although you have to be careful not to lock the wheels up as they are not as progressive braking as alloy wheels.

The ceramic bearings are fantastic and seem to spin forever.
And lastly, I don't think anyone makes a better looking well finished quality wheel than this

And its also against the law to fit anything other than Campagnolo on an Italian bike

I've copied this quote from Dave lloyd below, off the Cyclosport forum, I think an ex-pro like him must know what he's talking about, he seem's to like them :-

"I have ridden Campag Boras in EVERY Sportive I have ever ridden and they are fantastic in the main. OK, they don't brake quite as well in the wet, but I've never crashed or been near to crashing in any Sportive. I absolutely adore Boras. They are light, aero, as stiff as a board and climb like nothing I've used before or since. They are also bomb proof.. The number of holes I've hit and cattle grids I've hit at 50+ MPH and they are as true as when I got them 3 years ago..

As for puncturing, I just use an old tub I've had repaired with the tub tape still on the base tape and they stick well enough to not worry me at all on any descent and I've NEVER rolled a tub in 38 years of riding and racing. The only time I ever use Clinchers is on my heavy old winter bike which I use to train on really bad days..."

Hope this helps,

Poucher

Anonymous

If your mate wants to send me his lightweight or Boras for a completely free, unbiased and partial 6 month trial period I will grudgingly fit them to my bike and let him know which ones to get.
Sincerely.

aarw

The finish quality of the Bora is night and day compared to the Lightweight's. The Lightweights are handmade, and they look it. You might dig that though...