Cav v Wiggo

BdeB

There seems to be a bit of playing them off against each other on this forum and elsewhere and those who don't like Cav will try and down play his acheivemants compared to Wiggo this year. If it is alright by everyone i am going to support both of them. They have both acheived brilliant things at this Tour. Who would have thought we brits would have the fastest sprinter in the world and a top 3 GC finisher (fingers crossed).
I know people will try and compare their characters and Wiggo's chilled out attitude will suit some more than Cav's more intense personality. But lets just celebrate both of them and what they have done. It amazes me that after only 2 years and 8 stage wins people are already taking Cav for granted and ripping into him. Both riders have had me jumping out of my seat watching them this year (As well as Millar in barca) and with the Sky team coming next year maybe we can have even more to cheer about. Come on the Brits!!!

DavidBelcher

+1 to that. Two very different riders, chasing completely different goals. But hats off to the pair of them for doing a damn good job in both cases.

David

Anonymous

Yep.

takethehighroad

The best thing about it is that in the next few years, fingers crossed, it's only gona get better. Both of these riders have come from the BC track setup and tranferred it to the road.

Imagine the possibilities of developing riders specifically on the road. Peter Kennaugh, Ben Swift and Johnny Bellis are VERY promising.

stagehopper

BdeB wrote:

Who would have thought we brits would have the fastest sprinter in the world and a top 3 GC finisher

Nicole Cooke

OffTheBackAdam

Their personalities fit with their riding goals.
Ever seen an introverted sprinter? Life on the limit.
Those with designs on GC need to harbour their resources much more carefully.

graeme_s-2

TakeTheHighRoad wrote:

The best thing about it is that in the next few years, fingers crossed, it's only gona get better. Both of these riders have come from the BC track setup and tranferred it to the road.

This forum used to be full of people complaining that BC were squandering their resources riding in circles when the rest of the world didn't care what happened in the velodrome, and it was irrelevant compared to continental road racing.

Don't Wiggins' and Cav's performances at the tour this year completely vindicate BCs approach? Even if neither of them get involved in Team Sky, the guys who are starting to come through on the track now will benefit from the new set up.

FOAD

Both are awesome cyclists.

Why so many on here get over upset about personalities and the like is beyond comprehension.

finchy

It'd be great to see the pair of them standing on the podium one day, one in yellow, the other in green.

Stuey01

I'll take a bit of both please. Loving the brits in the TdF this year

bikerZA

It's just great we've got two British riders doing so well. Can't remember the last time that happened!

inseine

Nice to read a positive post! Great Tour for the Brits. Too many people get carried away with their personnalities. Lets just appreciate their acheivements.

DavidBelcher

bikerZA wrote:

Can't remember the last time that happened!

A very good point there, one of the few other stand-out tours with a British interest I can think of is exactly 50 years ago(!) - Brian Robinson (19th overall) and Vic Sutton (37th) both made the top 40 on GC, Robinson taking the honours on stage 20 and Sutton putting in some notable uphill performances.

David

Spawn of Cabbie

If Wiggins can get on the third or second step of the podium, he will be adored forever. If he ruins it by getting in yellow in Paris, he will be despised forever.

all show no go

Both riders have been absolutely awesome in this Tour. I suppose the special mention goes to Bradley simply because none of us (except himself?) expected such a brilliant performance. He's not hanging on for grim death at the back of the GC contender's group in the mountains, he's following the right wheels, marking the moves and jumping on and negating the dangerous attacks and even throwing a few attacking moves himself. His post race interviews on ITV4 are excellent and he's having the time of his life.
Cav is winning as we have almost come to expect and is feared by so many fast-men now that it seems only Thor can/wants to take him on. His post race interviews are excellent and he's still a breath of fresh air in what is a very stagnant peloton, personality wise.
I look forward to Wiggo finishing high up on GC and Bingo and the God of Thunder giving it some on the Champs Elysees this Sunday.

Blonde

You can't compare them They are chasing completely different goals and they are completely different types fo rider. I love them both. Aw, Cav is so dreamy with his lovely pouty lips.. don't you just want to kiss him! :oops: (he's far too young for me tho....) Wiggo is rather sweet with his very British, playing it down, understated way of talkng about his massive achievments, yet showing a genuine quiet pleasure at his own good form. Cav comes across as more of the typical sprinter stereotype; more overtly emotional, wears his heart on his sleeve, an aggressive rider, generous in his praise of team mates (and showing great affection for them all after a win), but equally showing his annoyance when others don't perform as expected (showing that he's a perfectionist himself). He's a bit of a pretty-boy, flamboyant with his green specs and totally awesome in action! Hurrah for them both I say! It's all been great fun to watch!

Anonymous

Emma Pooley third in Giro Donne and Lizzie Armitstead best young rider...

Blonde

Hurrah! More Brit success....

robmanic1

We totally RULE cycling!

takethehighroad

Robmanic1 wrote:

We totally RULE cycling!

Makes you feel funny doesn't it? And we won in the cricket. What's wrong with these sucessful Brits?

I've just realised.

Cav is from the Isle Of Man
Wiggo was born in Ghent
KP's South African

They're not ENGLISH, they're British

robmanic1

......don't forget Button (at least for the moment)

Blonde

TakeTheHighRoad wrote:

Robmanic1 wrote:

We totally RULE cycling!

Makes you feel funny doesn't it? And we won in the cricket. What's wrong with these sucessful Brits?

I've just realised.

Cav is from the Isle Of Man
Wiggo was born in Ghent
KP's South African

They're not ENGLISH, they're British

Yeah, they're Brits, unless they lose of course, in which case they are johnny foreigners - Cav is Manx, Wiggo is Belgian etc....

mandie

Blonde wrote:

TakeTheHighRoad wrote:

Robmanic1 wrote:

We totally RULE cycling!

Makes you feel funny doesn't it? And we won in the cricket. What's wrong with these sucessful Brits?

I've just realised.

Cav is from the Isle Of Man
Wiggo was born in Ghent
KP's South African

They're not ENGLISH, they're British

Yeah, they're Brits, unless they lose of course, in which case they are johnny foreigners - Cav is Manx, Wiggo is Belgian etc....

Dave Millar is Maltese and Charle Wegelius is Finnish.
So maybe we ain't doing as well as we thought.

moray_gub

mandie wrote:

Blonde wrote:

TakeTheHighRoad wrote:

Robmanic1 wrote:

We totally RULE cycling!

Makes you feel funny doesn't it? And we won in the cricket. What's wrong with these sucessful Brits?

I've just realised.

Cav is from the Isle Of Man
Wiggo was born in Ghent
KP's South African

They're not ENGLISH, they're British

Yeah, they're Brits, unless they lose of course, in which case they are johnny foreigners - Cav is Manx, Wiggo is Belgian etc....

Dave Millar is Maltese and Charle Wegelius is Finnish.
So maybe we ain't doing as well as we thought.

RE : dave Millar ...............as the Duke of Wellington said "Being born in a stable, doesn't make you a horse".

takethehighroad

So does that mean that even though he was born in Malta it doesn't make him a falcon?

moray_gub

TakeTheHighRoad wrote:

So does that mean that even though he was born in Malta it doesn't make him a falcon?

He is a bit cross with that comment


ok ill get my coat

geoff_ss

We do pretty well in my 'other' sport too - dinghy racing

I'm delighted to have two Brits to cheer on though I'm more of a Wiggins type myself (dream on, Geoff) Cav's sprinting supported by a well-drilled lead out team is a joy to see.

Geoff

robmanic1

Geoff_SS wrote:

We do pretty well in my 'other' sport too - dinghy racing

I'm delighted to have two Brits to cheer on though I'm more of a Wiggins type myself (dream on, Geoff) Cav's sprinting supported by a well-drilled lead out team is a joy to see.

Geoff

Ah yes, we have ruled the waves for some time (Ben Ainslie et al).

What do you sail Geoff? Used to do a bit in Albacores myself.

paulcuthbert

Wiggins is dull. At least Cavendish has a bit of bite and character about him!

Mettan

Can't remember when it was (after Olympics?) but didn't Cav insinuate that Brad was "only good for a laugh" in the cycling world - almost implying Brad wasn't much of a Road cyclist ??? Cav must be choking on his cornflakes now. But then again , he's got 4 stage wins in this years tour already and will probably take Paris - all good

Kléber

paulcuthbert wrote:

Wiggins is dull. At least Cavendish has a bit of bite and character about him!

Cav has had time to relax into his position of top sprinter, I think Wiggins is still unable to believe how well he is doing and so doesn't want to start looking too self-satisfied in case it all goes wrong.

Wiggins is one of the more interesting riders in the bunch, he travels to races with a guitar and has more interests outside of racing than the average rider, most of the bunch are interested in buying cars, mobile phones and drooling over porno stars. If that's you thing too, fine but Wiggins has more than this.