i thinke its a bit expensive

Hercule Q

just been down the lbs and asked how much to replace my deore rear hub and build it onto my existing rim.

£70 he quoted me for this, i think its a bit of a rip off. is it?

adb1006

Very much. "Building" it on to the rear hub consists of sliding it on and tightening the lockring. You could buy the tools and cassette for a lot less than £70 and do it yourself - it's a piece of p1ss.

Chaz.Harding

adb1006 wrote:

Very much. "Building" it on to the rear hub consists of sliding it on and tightening the lockring. You could buy the tools and cassette for a lot less than £70.

I think he means wheel-building it, from his old wheelset, using his current Deore hub, onto his current rim.

Hercule Q, you tried Merlin??

You can get a full Shimano Deore wheelset for £79.99!!!

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Hercule Q

spoke to the cycle shop on the otherside of town he said he can do the wheel, true and replace the couple of bent spokes in the front wheel and replace my bottom bracket for less than that

so a deore rear hub, a new bb and spokes and labour for £60 i know where i'm taking it

adb1006

bigchazrocks wrote:

adb1006 wrote:

Very much. "Building" it on to the rear hub consists of sliding it on and tightening the lockring. You could buy the tools and cassette for a lot less than £70.

I think he means wheel-building it, from his old wheelset, using his current Deore hub, onto his current rim.

Hercule Q, you tried Merlin??

You can get a full Shimano Deore wheelset for £79.99!!!

8)

Duuurrrrrr - oh yeah :oops: How the hell did i read cassette instead of hub??? My apologies :?

Still quite pricey though - like you say a wheelset is only £80. A wheel build round here is usually about £40 at an lbs.

ride_whenever

Why don't you remove the rotor and cassette, and dismantle the old wheel carefully. Take in the rim and ask them to build it onto a new hub.

supersonic

Deore rear hub £25
Spokes if needed £20
Unbuild wheel to preserve rim £10
Wheel build £15

Merlin: dunno how they do it for the price

ride_whenever

£15 for a wheel build and dish? That's a bit low, it's going to take the best part of an hour, my lbs is on £30 an hour labour.

alfablue

Merlin can do you an XT hub on XC717 rim for £77, Deore on 317 is only £53. They do great builds. SO against these prices I would go down the Merlin route.

supersonic

ride_whenever wrote:

£15 for a wheel build and dish? That's a bit low, it's going to take the best part of an hour, my lbs is on £30 an hour labour.

Often a little cheaper if you buy a few parts. If you took your own parts in I would charge more.

ride_whenever

Super I agree with that, but at the end of the day, you've still got to make enough money to cover your running costs!

supersonic

Seems to be standard practice lol. Maybe not on a deore hub - I have seen some places build free.

alfablue

I don't think the LBS price is a rip off, their costs and overheads will be greater than the likes of Merlin, but Merlin will give you all new parts and a great build for the same or less depending on spec. Depends on the degree to which you want to support your LBS I guess.

ride_whenever

merlin normally don't use the newest hubs though... That said i really rate their wheels, having had a few set now. However I now build my own.

supersonic

I still use Merlin, cheaper than I can source the parts for! I got a pair of deore hubs on FIR Rims (great quality) with ACI DB spokes for 50 quid.

Mind you I just got those cyprus wheels from WHS.

ride_whenever

Super are you still working in the trade?

I don't use merlin partly because I like building my own, but mainly because i'm a massive tart and they don't do white wheels, or baby blue ones. Which are the next two set's i need to build.

supersonic

Not anymore, but hoping to get back into spannering soon.

Anonymous

I always get my wheels built by my LBS, they make some amazingly solid wheels.
Idon't doubt Merlin at all, but I've always gone by the adage of "if you're lucky enough to find a great wheel builder, then make friends with him".

Chaz.Harding

yeehaamcgee wrote:

I've always gone by the adage of "if you're lucky enough to find a great wheel builder, then make friends with him".

You missed the last part of that saying out!

''If you're lucky enough to find a great wheelbuilder, then make friends with him...
...Get him to teach you how to properly build wheels, then befriend him, and build / tweak your own!''

Dazzza

Or how about this wheel, £77 if you use a voucher.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Hope_ ... 360036486/

Couldn't believe the price when i saw it.

Hercule Q

Dazzza wrote:

Or how about this wheel, £77 if you use a voucher.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Hope_ ... 360036486/

Couldn't believe the price when i saw it.

one problem. i need a rear hub

Dazzza

As if by magic.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Hope_ ... 360036492/

Hercule Q

if i had that much spare cash i'd have a set of pro II hubs by now

dave_hill

Hercule Q wrote:

just been down the lbs and asked how much to replace my deore rear hub and build it onto my existing rim.

£70 he quoted me for this, i think its a bit of a rip off. is it?

Sounds pretty reasonable to dismantle a wheel and build it into another.

But then you can get a complete brand new pair of Mavic Crossrides for £135 form CRC at the mo (Linky). I know what I'd be doing,,,

Hercule Q

i'm tempted to buy a wheel instead but i need it V compatible unless anyone has an old rear disc brake they want rid of

alfablue

You can get a non disc rim on a disc hub to allow for later upgrades.

Hercule Q

whats a good strong rim then at the mo its a D521