Night Lights

ThanksBye

Im tempted to buy my self some night lights to try night riding(Obv)

Im probaly going to get the p7 from deal extremer, or does anyone know of a better suggestion?

And what would be good to pair it with as a helmet light?


Thanks Jon

smegurmum

id say you would want a headlamp too cos your not always looking in the direction the bike is heading in

ThanksBye

I was planning on having a more powerfull light on teh bars, and another on my helmet

bregante

Best advice I can give you is don't take shortcuts. Cheap lights are rubbish lights - end of.

I am currently running Exposure Maxx Enduro bar mounted with exposure joystick head light. Great comibination but not much change out of £400!

antfly

How long before someone mentions dealextreme?
edit. I see the op already did,I shall take my leave.

supersonic

Bregante wrote:

Best advice I can give you is don't take shortcuts. Cheap lights are rubbish lights - end of.

I am currently running Exposure Maxx Enduro bar mounted with exposure joystick head light. Great comibination but not much change out of £400!

I disagree, the P7 torches are great value, and two will out shine your combo!

Northwind

Bregante wrote:

Best advice I can give you is don't take shortcuts. Cheap lights are rubbish lights - end of.

With respect- this is nonsense these days. I think you should get some experience of the dealextreme torches before you knock them. My 2 cheap lights have a greater output than your £400 worth of light. The only places they don't perform as well or better is ease of mounting, and uninterrupted burn time. The first is easy enough to sort with a little effort, and the latter is only a big deal if you never stop riding.(and battery packs are available to give the torches a 4 and a half hour burn time) I've used a Joystick and it's hopelessly outclassed by the P7 torches, they have more than twice the output, just as much range with an effective flood to match.

I'll not recommend the newer DX bike-specific light as I've no personal experience of it, though it seems good but I've done enough night riding with the P7 torches and used or seen "competitors" to tell you they're massively effective, very reliable, as well as very very cheap. My mate's Seca 900 has me beat (what a piece of kit, it's fantastic) but then it cost him about £450. But another mate has a pair of minewts and a joystick and either of my lights is more effective.

antfly wrote:

How long before someone mentions dealextreme?

The OP did it

supersonic

Good news is that the pound is climbing against the dollar, and some of the torches have got cheaper in dollars too.

scotto

been looking at these posts with interest.

I don't get how you mount a torch to your bike without it wobbling about all over the place, I have a light with one of those pull type plastic fittings and every time I go over a bump it point downwards, one of the most annoying feelings ever !

so how does one mount a torch to the bars without the movement?

bay73

Bregante wrote:

Best advice I can give you is don't take shortcuts. Cheap lights are rubbish lights - end of.

I am currently running Exposure Maxx Enduro bar mounted with exposure joystick head light. Great comibination but not much change out of £400!

Agree with Bregante. I'm running an Exposure Maxx Enduro and it rocks.

Northwind

scotto wrote:

so how does one mount a torch to the bars without the movement?

I used a quick release light mounting which I got off Chain Reaction for £2- can't remember the make, but it's your standard bike light mount. Then, I attached the torch to that with a jubilee clip. Absolutely rock solid, funnilly enough it's more stable and solid than my mate's minewts, and easier to fit too.





(this is different torches obviously, but it works the same)

Another method is to use 2 jubilee clips, as seen in the bottom pic- this is more permanent and a pain to remove so only good if you want to leave the light on all the time

Helmet can be more of a hassle though, since different helmets are different shapes. I have a Giro Hex and it has a perfect flat spot on the top- so I just attach the torch with 2 red post office elastic bands, and a wee bit of velcro to make it easier to attach. Not as slick as a Joystick mind!

scotto

That's genius Northwind !

Briliant, have to get some I think

Many thanks

racefaceec90

i have a hope vision 2 led epic lightset,that i paid £200 for.i think they are really good lights for the money,(with the epic battery you can run them from around 4 hours on highest setting,up to 26 hours on economy setting.i have never had problems seeing where i'm going,whilst on the ridgeway at 1am!!!hope that was some help!!! :P

Northwind

scotto wrote:

That's genius Northwind

I stole it off someone else to be fair

bregante

supersonic wrote:

Bregante wrote:

Best advice I can give you is don't take shortcuts. Cheap lights are rubbish lights - end of.

I am currently running Exposure Maxx Enduro bar mounted with exposure joystick head light. Great comibination but not much change out of £400!

I disagree, the P7 torches are great value, and two will out shine your combo!

false economy. 12 months down the line, after the hammer I give mine yours would be in my bin.

The Spiderman

12 months down the line my P7 is still performing faultlessly.
Ironically my mate by contrast has had issues with his USE lights..........
Thing is if my p7 died tomorrow I could just by another for £25.

Dazzza

12 months down the line a new led would be released making your expensive bike lights defunct.

Cree xr-g led on the way, 350lumens compared to xr-e which is 250lm.

psilocybe

Which is the best P-7 to buy from Dealextreme anyway, I have a Fenix but would like to use that as a helmet light and get a P-7 for my bars?

The Spiderman

The 2 function MTE P7 is just fine.Have a read here to see what you need:http://www.mtbbritain.co.uk/mountain_bike_lights_review_led.html

bregante

Dazzza wrote:

12 months down the line a new led would be released making your expensive bike lights defunct.

Cree xr-g led on the way, 350lumens compared to xr-e which is 250lm.

are night rides going to get darker in 12 months??????????

Northwind

Bregante wrote:

false economy. 12 months down the line, after the hammer I give mine yours would be in my bin.

What experience do you have of these lights? I'm kind of working on the assumption that it's none at all... What "hammer" do you give your lights that will damage them? Remember these are torches, they're built for durability- I've dropped one of mine down 2 flights of stone steps and while it broke the front glass, it took 10 minutes to replace it and it's still good as new- I reckon many bike lights wouldn't survive that.

But you missed the most important thing here- a pair of P7s inc charger and spare batteries costs about £75 IIRC. The torches are around £20 each. So even if you go through one a month and use them all year, it takes nearly 2 years before you've spent as much on replacements as you have on just 2 lights And you won't- there's plenty of people who've been using these for some time without issue, and they do have a warranty.

supersonic

Bregante wrote:

supersonic wrote:

Bregante wrote:

Best advice I can give you is don't take shortcuts. Cheap lights are rubbish lights - end of.

I am currently running Exposure Maxx Enduro bar mounted with exposure joystick head light. Great comibination but not much change out of £400!

I disagree, the P7 torches are great value, and two will out shine your combo!

false economy. 12 months down the line, after the hammer I give mine yours would be in my bin.

Rubbish. They are very well made, some designed to be used as striking weapons too. with the screw on bezzle. I have seen then dropped, submerged in water, smashed about. All fine.

merlie

are the batteries for the P7 not like normal AA ?

The Spiderman

merlie wrote:

are the batteries for the P7 not like normal AA ?

No,18650,a little larger than AA.

Northwind

They're 3.7V lithium-ion polymer batteries. Which funnilly enough are the exact same as what's in some of hte expensive bike lights' battery packs. AA don't work very well for high drain items like a bike light, you tend to find they dim too early. These li-pos give a good output for most of their charge so even after an hour (which is most of their burn time) you're still getting most of the output.