Drug bust in Italy

iainf72
iainf72 Posts: 15,784
edited July 2009 in Pro race
Serbian coach arrested and 12 pro cyclists too.

New form of EPO among the evidence.
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.

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  • bikerZA
    bikerZA Posts: 314
    hmm, i wonder if there will be any big names implicated.
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,483
    I thought the EPO era was well and truly over.
  • bikerZA
    bikerZA Posts: 314
    andyp wrote:
    I thought the EPO era was well and truly over.
    New form of EPO apparently.. More advanced than CERA?

    Where did this story come from?
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  • flattythehurdler
    flattythehurdler Posts: 2,314
    Err biker za, I hope you are not in any way affiliated to cyclecomparison.
    Dan
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    More here

    Can we nickname this one Operation Passo?

    Sounds like it could blow up big stylee with team managers involved.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • tubularglue
    tubularglue Posts: 46
    :idea:

    http://forum.velonews.com/read.php?f=2&i=373466&t=373466#reply_373466

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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    A former head of Serbian cycling was arrested with thirty other people, including around a dozen pro cyclists by the Padua police in north Italy.

    Ooh, drama.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Can someone who speaks Italian tell us in what context Rebellin and Sella are named here:

    http://sportitalia.com/shownews.aspx?id=5370

    I tried Google translation but still can't figure it out. Surely they haven't been arrested?

    Also - one minor arrested after being videotaped undergoing "treatment" while his dad accompanied him. Nice. Gotta have parents permission if you want to dope up kids - it would be unethical otherwise.

    Other names mentioned - Rodolfo Massi is a former pro who won stages of the Tour and the Giro in the 1990s. His nickname apparently was "the pharmacist" :roll:
  • markwalker
    markwalker Posts: 953
    afx237vi wrote:
    Can someone who speaks Italian tell us in what context Rebellin and Sella are named here:

    http://sportitalia.com/shownews.aspx?id=5370

    I tried Google translation but still can't figure it out. Surely they haven't been arrested?

    Also - one minor arrested after being videotaped undergoing "treatment" while his dad accompanied him. Nice. Gotta have parents permission if you want to dope up kids - it would be unethical otherwise.

    Other names mentioned - Rodolfo Massi is a former pro who won stages of the Tour and the Giro in the 1990s. His nickname apparently was "the pharmacist" :roll:

    Cant believe theres no more comment about this!
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,483
    afx237vi wrote:
    Can someone who speaks Italian tell us in what context Rebellin and Sella are named here:

    http://sportitalia.com/shownews.aspx?id=5370
    My tourist Italian reads that as saying that none of the professionals arrested have been officially named, but the names circulating unofficially include those of Rebellin, Sella, Ricco (although he has denied this personally), Priam, Moletta, Novembrini and Gajcic.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    That's what I thought it said, but wow, that's big :shock:

    Simone Mori, one of the DSes mentioned is manager of Amica Chips-Knauf.

    Moletta, remember, was kicked out of the Giro after his dad was found with a car-full of viagra.

    Priamo (?) was the rider Sella named as his supplier. Former CSF-Navigare rider.
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Ricco named too, as well as Priamo and Molletta. But often the police launch big raids and don't get many people in the end. It does sound as the Serbian coach was exploiting lax rules at home to run a thriving export business, selling a lot of banned substances to Italians.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,483
    It sounds like a major operation to me. Those arrested include team directors and employees of unnamed pharmaceutical companies. The Guardia di Finanza have been gathering evidence for some time, including wire taps and video evidence.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,711
    Love this translation. Sella is particularly appropriate. :)
    Between the professionals involved there are Davide Rebellin, Emanuele Saddles, Matteo Priamo, Andrea Moletta, Julio Munoz, November Amerigo, Sasa Gajicic and Francesco Revere, while the three sports managers denounced I am Dark Simone (former Friend Chips), Given Giuliani (National Electric Hadimec) and Rodolfo Boulders (Team Boulders).

    I expect it won't be long before we get the full story in English.
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  • aurelio_-_banned
    aurelio_-_banned Posts: 1,317
    edited July 2009
    andyp wrote:
    I thought the EPO era was well and truly over.
    Yeah, right alongside the era of organised doping... :wink:
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Aurelio, I think andyp was being ironic and quoting our friend jerkhammer111who has repeated this idea several times in the last few days, although he stopped soon after iainf72 asked him about the Colom, Pfannberger etc :wink:
  • aurelio_-_banned
    aurelio_-_banned Posts: 1,317
    Kléber wrote:
    Aurelio, I think andyp was being ironic and quoting our friend jerkhammer111who has repeated this idea several times in the last few days, although he stopped soon after iainf72 asked him about the Colom, Pfannberger etc :wink:
    I did realise that. Hope the added emoticon makes that clearer. :wink:
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Actually, can I retract this entire story?

    I originally read it in l'equipe so it must be nonsense.

    :wink:

    I wonder if this is just a CERA-hangover from last year. Although, if 10,000 doses of anything was recovered it's clearly still a very lucrative business.

    Afx - On the minor thing : I recall in the late 80's reading about a guy working extra jobs to afford steriods for his son who wanted to be a pro (in france) and more recently there were some cases in South Africa where parents were taking their teenagers to doping guys for things like EPO.

    http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news.php ... /sep29news
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Now that you mention it, I do remember that SA story. Love how completely f*cked up this quote is:

    "It's not as if I tie up children and then inject them with something from behind. The parents approach me and ask me to help."

    Aaaaah, that's OK then :roll:

    The minor in Italy was apparently a girl.
  • drenkrom
    drenkrom Posts: 1,062
    Sounds to me like the conclusion of an investigation that would've started sometime in early summer 2008. You know, when two guys whose names are in the article supposedly named names but the authorities couldn't confirm what was said because of an ongoing investigation?

    With pharmaceutical people and team officials linked, this could be huge.

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