Building a bike...cost?

bikerdon
bikerdon Posts: 327
edited July 2009 in MTB buying advice
Looking to build a bike from scratch for dj/street/park, i want 24s, singlespeed and sus forks just want an idea on price for a half decent build. Was looking at an identiti p60 framr or dmr transition, something along those lines! Also any good frame/build suggestions?

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  • boogercj
    boogercj Posts: 316
    I'm in the middle of building a rigid SS "playbike", so similar spec, but based around an old Trailstar frame that I got for £50 and a few second hand bits. My total is working out at about £550 all in.

    Reckon with new suspension forks such as DJ3s and new frame you're looking at £800-900 at least, unless you get some bits second hand.
  • xtreem
    xtreem Posts: 2,965
    Reckon with new suspension forks such as DJ3s and new frame you're looking at £800-900 at least, unless you get some bits second hand.
    I think with some Argyle and a 20mm axle, and everything new, £800-900 should be
    enough for a decent build. Singlespeed means no cassette, no shifters, no derailleurs,
    no need for chain tensioner.
    Actualy I think it's possible to make a very good build for that money.
  • i am thinking of building a dmr exalt in the near future. i am thinking of maybe running twin rings up front for a more freeride inspired bike. any suggestions on what cranks i should use. also cant decide whether to go for some 170mm marzocchi 888 that were made in 2005, but unsure. any suggestions please
  • nonnac85
    nonnac85 Posts: 1,608
    Im building a Giant STP bike at the mo with DJ2 forks, SS cranks, 24" wheels. Bought most bits from the forum and e bay so mostly (decent) second hand.
    Comes to £350 all together including labour for facing the BB shell and fitting new headset.
    My Website - Trail Centre info for the UK: MTB Trail Time
  • bikerdon
    bikerdon Posts: 327
    I did a quick calculation and got to about £1000! That was with DJ2s and some fairly average parts like to see how you got to £800-£900 with argyles!
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  • The Big Cheese
    The Big Cheese Posts: 8,650
    I have a 2006 Mongoose ritual (before they went all svelt and lightweight and mainstream) - loooong TT and heavy - but I like that about it - 4130 Sanko steel

    Originally cost nearly £600 back then.

    Everything has gone apart from the frame and wheels (Formula sealed hubs with Sun Ringle Ditch-Witch rims - heavy but OK by me), frame has been stripped, resprayed and re-decalled (old skool style)

    I have built it up again with the following

    DMR Trailblade 2 rigid forks - £90
    DMR Wingbar - £23
    Azonic Shorty stem - £40
    FSA Pig headset - £18
    Shimano DX brake lever (right only) £23
    Big Cheese BMX grips - £13
    Salt BMX seatpost - £15
    Blank BMX Saddle - £10
    Gusset EXP cranks - £50
    Stolen 25t ring - £25
    Bug Cheese BMX pedals - £50
    Maxis Holy roller tyres - £35
    Tektro mechanical disk brake (rear only£35)
    Fibrax brake outer and inner - £10
    KMC gold SS BMX chain - £15

    You can get an idea of how it all adds up...


    BUT, my bike is how I want it - I could of bought one cheaper, but I like it - don't forget, rigids save a lot of dough!

    I just wanted a 'big BMX' really and that's what I have without looking like a clown

    :wink:
  • bikerdon
    bikerdon Posts: 327
    The frame is around £260, DJ2s are £220 plus halo combat wheels gusset cranks, bars, stem, seat and seatpost, dmr tires, fsa headset, hayes mech brakes, e13 basguard and chainring all came to £1000 or just over! Nice build though anyone got any cheaper ideas?

    edit: here is more specific part list prices are based on winstanleys using finance so its not full discounted price!

    Identiti P60 build cost:

    Frame : Identiti P60 £270

    Fork: DJ2 £220

    Steering: 
    Stem- Gusset Lil Git £30
    Bars- Gusset Prison £30
    Grips- Gusset Bastard £7

    Seat- Gusset Lil £20
    Seatpost- Gusset Totem Poll £13
    Seat clamp- Gusset Poledancer £8

    Crank- Gusset Pigmy £66
    Chainring- E13 £30
    Bashguard- E13 Supercharger £30
    Chain- Gusset Pro £23
    Pedals- Gusset Slim Jim £30

    Brakes- Funn EZX Mechanical £70 for both

    Wheelset
    Wheels- Halo combat 2 both £140
    Tyres-DMR Moto or Halo £40 for both









      
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  • xtreem
    xtreem Posts: 2,965
    Frame: Identiti P-60
    £240

    Fork: Marzocchi DJ1 2009
    £225

    Steering:
    Stem- Gusset Lil Git £30
    Bars- Gusset Prison £30
    Grips- Gusset Bastard £7

    Seat- Gusset Lil £20
    Seatpost- Gusset Totem Poll £13
    Seat clamp- Gusset Poledancer £8

    BB: Gusset Trident ISIS
    £28
    Crank: Truvativ Hussefelt DH with bashring
    £59
    Single Speed Conversion Kit: Gusset 1-ER Micro
    £14
    Chain- Gusset Pro £23
    Pedals- Gusset Slim Jim £30

    Brakes:
    Avid BB7 front 160/185mm
    £57
    For 203mm rotor for £57 at wiggle.
    Avid BB5 rear 160mm
    £44

    Wheelset:
    Halo combat rear £68

    Front, at CRC build with 20mm axle:
    DMR Revolver Front Disc 20mm 32h Black
    Halo Combat Multi Rim 32h Black 24inch
    DT Swiss Spokes Champion Stainless PG Silver 2mm
    £85

    Tyres-DMR Moto or Halo £40 for both

    Total = £1021

    You can still save a bit with different stem and handlebars, also on the brakes, but I think
    going bb7 and bb5 will be a good choice. Plus the DJ1 will be better than the DJ2 at the
    same price. And sorry you can't build a bike with Argyle, well I think you can if you go for
    the 302, but the 318 is £100 more.
  • bikerdon
    bikerdon Posts: 327
    Thanks for that the only issue is i need to buy it on finance so needa to come from the same place. With winstanleys when you buy using finance you either get 10% added on to the discount price or the rrp which ever is cheaper!

    I thought the P60 came with a BB also ?

    Looks like a fairly sweet build but didnt realise it would be so much.

    Also any thoughts on the Curtis MX24 frame?
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  • xtreem
    xtreem Posts: 2,965
    Buying only from winstanleys changes things a bit, but hey, 10% discount is always welcome.

    So I would change this:
    The DJ2 with an Argyle 302 for £250, you get a 20mm axle and 500g/ 1.1lbs lighter fork.

    No clue on the cranks, because the hussefelt is out of stock. :?

    Gusset 1-ER Single-Speed Convertor Kit is available at winstanleys also.

    The BB7 and BB5 are a bit more but it's your decision if go for these.

    And for the front wheel, probably you have to buy a Halo Combat rim, 20mm hub and
    spokes, because only the Halo Tornado is in stock at winstanleys but in gold only.


    Btw, didn't noticed that the P-66 comes with BB, sorry,
    and the Curtis MX24 looks good, can't be bad, can be?
  • bikerdon
    bikerdon Posts: 327
    The argyles would be £275 because its 10% more if its discounted but worth a thought also whats wrong with Gusset Pigmy cranks?

    Also does the wheelcome prebuilt from winstanleys or does that have to be done?

    Any ideas on cost of getting it built too?
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  • xtreem
    xtreem Posts: 2,965
    Nothing wrong with the Gusset Pigmy cranks, it's just the price, £126 all together,
    where with the hussefelt you'll get all that for £60.

    You mean the front wheel? I don't know if winstanleys build wheels, but if not you can
    buy only hub and rim, and let it build at your lbs, which I don't know how much will it cost.

    Btw, I read that wrong, I thought you get a 10% discount. :oops:
    Things are a bit more expensive now, so Argyles will add to the cost.
    The DJ2 is probably your best bet.
  • bikerdon
    bikerdon Posts: 327
    Im thinking now if im spending this much might aswell consider buying the frame i really want the NS Suburban.

    Im not missing any parts am I?

    Will those truvative cranks fit with the bb supplied?
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  • xtreem
    xtreem Posts: 2,965
    I don't think you're missing parts.

    And I think the truvative cranks will fit the Gusset BB and Euro BB on the P60.
    But when you're finaly buying, I think to make sure you should ask in workshop and tech
    for confirmation, and whatever you're buying BB and cranks you should ask about what
    size will you need.
  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    i built up my play bike for about 400-500 pounds, can't quite remember, but most of it was second hand.

    I'd say build some handbuilts for wheels though. Lighter and just as strong.
  • junglist_matty
    junglist_matty Posts: 1,731
    i am thinking of building a dmr exalt in the near future. i am thinking of maybe running twin rings up front for a more freeride inspired bike. any suggestions on what cranks i should use. also cant decide whether to go for some 170mm marzocchi 888 that were made in 2005, but unsure. any suggestions please

    Silly idea, don't bother with dual crown forks on a hardtail, there's simply no point and unless your doing massive freeride stuff 140 - 160mm travel will be best for the exalt frame.

    Have a look at my long travel HT bike in my sig, cost me about £1000 to build, forks were second hand (obviously as they're 2004 models - Z150).
  • bikerdon
    bikerdon Posts: 327
    Ok sounds good thanks for the advise think ill go for the suburban 24 though!
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