Contador Spanish TT champion

victorponf
victorponf Posts: 1,187
edited July 2009 in Pro race
Yesterday TT in Cantabria 48 km (with a small climb)

1. Alberto Contador (Astana) 1:04:40
2. Luis León Sánchez (Caisse) a 36
3. Rubén Plaza (Liberty) a 1:04
4. Francisco Mancebo (Rock Racing) a 1:46
5. Iván Gutiérrez (Caisse d'Epargne) 1:50
6. Jonathan Castroviejo (Orbea) a 2:00
7. Carlos Barredo (Quick Step) a 2:17
8. Eloy Teruel (Contentpolis-AMPO) a 2:19
9. Xavier Tondo (Andalucía) a 2:40
10. Arkaitz Durán (Fuji-Servetto) a 2:43

I´d like know the opinion of Evans about this (in spanish papers he said that Contador is a rival easy to beat)
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Comments

  • The Prodigy
    The Prodigy Posts: 832
    If Evans has said that, he is a fool.
  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,123
    Good win for AC, he has shown that he is up for the challenge.

    I hope that all this TT training has not disadvantaged his climbing skills?
  • teagar
    teagar Posts: 2,100
    Good win for AC, he has shown that he is up for the challenge.

    I hope that all this TT training has not disadvantaged his climbing skills?

    Unlikely.
    Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.
  • moray_gub
    moray_gub Posts: 3,328
    victorponf wrote:
    Yesterday TT in Cantabria 48 km (with a small climb)

    1. Alberto Contador (Astana) 1:04:40
    2. Luis León Sánchez (Caisse) a 36
    3. Rubén Plaza (Liberty) a 1:04
    4. Francisco Mancebo (Rock Racing) a 1:46
    5. Iván Gutiérrez (Caisse d'Epargne) 1:50
    6. Jonathan Castroviejo (Orbea) a 2:00
    7. Carlos Barredo (Quick Step) a 2:17
    8. Eloy Teruel (Contentpolis-AMPO) a 2:19
    9. Xavier Tondo (Andalucía) a 2:40
    10. Arkaitz Durán (Fuji-Servetto) a 2:43

    I´d like know the opinion of Evans about this (in spanish papers he said that Contador is a rival easy to beat)

    Bertie does again what he been doing all his career.............thats is winning or doing well against the clock on long and short courses. Looking good for next week for him.
    Gasping - but somehow still alive !
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    Evans says AC is easy to beat? Hmmm...AC's con trick of looking off form at Dauphine is clearly working on Evan's mind
  • Sorry but Evans wouldnt have said that, beside being a stupid comment i dont think ive seen Evans say anyones an easy beat. Whats a bet this is a lost in translation misquote. I would say Evans can beat Bertie in most TT but not by much.
    Take care of the luxuries and the necessites will take care of themselves.
  • Unsheath
    Unsheath Posts: 49
    1:30 or so was the difference in the penultimate 07 TT wasnt it? They're probably even closer together these days.
  • victorponf
    victorponf Posts: 1,187
    Sorry but Evans wouldnt have said that, beside being a stupid comment i dont think ive seen Evans say anyones an easy beat. Whats a bet this is a lost in translation misquote. I would say Evans can beat Bertie in most TT but not by much.

    I don´t know if is a bad traslation. In Spanish the article said:

    "SERÁ INTERESANTE VER CÓMO RESPONDE ARMSTRONG, YO NO LO DESCARTARÍA"

    Evans: "Contador es perfectamente batible"
    El ciclista australiano se muestra muy confiado de sus posibilidades de cara a ganar el que sería su primer Tour de Francia · Pero reconoce que "sobre el papel, el Astana es el equipo más fuerte en la historia del Tour de Francia"

    ENRIQUE BERNAOLA 22/06/09

    Cadel Evans se encuentra más motivado que nunca para conquistar el que sería su primer Tour de Francia, después de dos años quedándose con la miel en los labios tras las victorias de Alberto Contador y Carlos Sastre. El australiano confía en su buen estado de forma y se congratula por no tener el cartel de favorito, además de señalar que el de Pinto "es batible".

    Depués de terminar segundo en la pasada edición del Dauphiné Liberé, por delante precisamente de Contador, Cadel Evans parece haber recuperado su confianza para poder ganar el Tour de Francia. El australiano así lo comentaba en una entrevista concedida a la web cyclingnews.com.

    Sin embargo, no dudó en elogiar al equipo Astana. "Sobre el papel es el equipo más fuerte en la historia del Tour de Francia. Si mantiene la misma forma que ha mostrado en la primera parte de la temporada, será muy difícil ganarles". Y es que el equipo kazajo se ha reforzado de lujo con las incorporaciones del siete veces vencedor de la ronda gala, Lance Armstrong, además de Chris Horner y Yaroslav Popovych (éste último llego procedente del equipo de Evans, el Silence-Lotto).

    "Se dice que algunas etapas de montaña no son tan duras como de costumbre, pero esta carrera es siempre difícil"
    Cadel tuvo buenas sensaciones para la gran carrera del año. "Será un gran espectáculo. El plantel es fantástico y todo promete ser especial. Sin embargo, desde el primer día habrá una gran selección entre los favoritos, pero me gusta mucho el recorrido de este año".

    En cuanto a su preparación, el australiano se ha instalado unos días en Sierra Nevada. "Ya he recorrido todos los finales de montaña de este Tour, ya los conozco. Se dice que algunas etapas de montaña no son tan duras como de costumbre, pero esta carrera es siempre difícil. Ahora mismo todo son especulaciones y lo único que sé es que promete ser un gran Tour".

    Cadel Evans también quiso valorar la participación de Lance Armstrong en la ronda gala. "En el Giro no empezó al nivel que los aficionados esperaban de él, pero era normal. Yo también he pasado por una rotura de clavícula y sé como es recuperarse de una lesión así. Sin embargo, él se fue recuperando en el transcurso de la carrera y ahora será interesante ver de qué es capaz en este Tour de Francia. Yo no lo descartaría".

    "Esperaba más de Contador en el Dauphiné, pero ahora será diferente. Tendré que estar muy atento siempre"
    El líder del Silence-Lotto se muestró muy ambicioso de cara a sus aspiraciones. "Soy un piloto muy agresivo. El año pasado me tocó luchar con tres corredores del CSC (Sastre y los hermanos Schleck). Mi trabajo es hacer todo lo que pueda en el Tour, no estoy aquí para dar espectáculo. El Astana parece no querer darme ninguna concesión y eso es bueno para mí. Significa que ellos mismos piensan que Contador es perfectamente batible, y yo también lo pienso".

    Evans se acordó de la pasada edición del Dauphiné Liberé y de la participación del madrileño. "Esperaba más de él en el Dauphiné, pero ahora será diferente. Tendré que estar muy atento siempre y responder cada día". Pero el australiano está encantado de no partir como claro favorito. "Ser el favorito afecta a tu vida personal. El año pasado, el 13 de febrero, se supo que iría el Tour. Al día siguiente, el Astana quedó excluido y me pusieron como claro favorito a ganarlo. Me pedían cantidad de entrevistas y perdí muchas energías. Este año ha ido mejor, no ha habido tanta presión y he entrenado más tranquilo para intentar ganar el Tour, que significa semanas y meses de preparación".
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  • drenkrom
    drenkrom Posts: 1,062
    "Contador es perfectamente batible"

    He said he was beatable. Not easy to beat. Huge difference. And of course, he'd say he was beatable. If you truly believed your adversaries to be unbeatable, what would you be doing competing against them?
  • victorponf
    victorponf Posts: 1,187
    drenkrom wrote:
    "Contador es perfectamente batible"

    He said he was beatable. Not easy to beat. Huge difference. And of course, he'd say he was beatable. If you truly believed your adversaries to be unbeatable, what would you be doing competing against them?

    Sorry he says "perfectamente batible" no just "batible", could you translate it? (it´s no the same, in spanish "perfectamente" is quite similar to easily)

    I´d know what Evans said in english
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  • micron
    micron Posts: 1,843
    He also says Astana are the strongest team in the history of the race, which suggests he hasn't really been reading his history books :lol:
  • avoidingmyphd
    avoidingmyphd Posts: 1,154
    it's pretty clear from the translation that evans said "perfectly beatable". this is just an emphatic way of saying beatable. it doesn't really have any bearing on how easy the beating would be, just that it is possible.

    it certainly doesn't translate as easily beatable, (although I can see that for the beatability to be perfect, it might need to be easy, hence the lost in translation problem!). i don't speak spanish, but I suspect that "perfectamente batible" is not a good translation of "perfectly beatable" if it can bear the meaning you give it victor.

    basically, all the serious contenders will believe all the others to be "perfectly beatable" and would not hesitate to say so.

    some of them will believe some of the others to be easily beatable. I think they'd all hesitate before saying so though (especially evans!)
  • drenkrom
    drenkrom Posts: 1,062
    In the latin languages, we like our adjectives. "Perfectly" is not a superlative as it is in English, it can simply mean "really". As in "I really think he can be beaten".
  • victorponf
    victorponf Posts: 1,187
    Anyway, it´s no easy to translate, i ask to a translator and she is in doutb between:

    Contador can be beaten perfectly well
    or

    Contador is not invincible


    Never mind :
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  • I think youll find its the second one, in fact im pretty certain that ive heard him say just that. Contador is certainly becoming that all round rider if he could only sprint :wink:
    Take care of the luxuries and the necessites will take care of themselves.
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    Bueno, no es tan dificil.

    I don't understand why nobody has seen in the actual Spanish article Victor pasted here that the source of Evans' quote, cited by the Spanish newspaper, is from our very own cyclingnews.com
    victorponf wrote:
    El australiano así lo comentaba en una entrevista concedida a la web cyclingnews.com.[/i]

    And here it is:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/cad ... challenger

    This is the quote the 'perfectamente batible' originates from:
    "My job is to do the best I can at the Tour de France, I’m not there to create spectacle. Astana seems to not want to give me much rope in major races and I take it as a compliment. It means they think Contador is beatable. I also think he is. I expected more from him at the Dauphiné. Now at the Tour I’ll have to be consistent, be there every day and not lose too much time in the team time trial."

    Quite modest...and not so modest from Sr. Enrique Bernaola to put his name on a piece he didn't actually contribute much to himself.
  • victorponf
    victorponf Posts: 1,187
    FJS wrote:
    Bueno, no es tan dificil.

    I don't understand why nobody has seen in the actual Spanish article Victor pasted here that the source of Evans' quote, cited by the Spanish newspaper, is from our very own cyclingnews.com
    victorponf wrote:
    El australiano así lo comentaba en una entrevista concedida a la web cyclingnews.com.[/i]

    And here it is:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/cad ... challenger

    This is the quote the 'perfectamente batible' originates from:
    "My job is to do the best I can at the Tour de France, I’m not there to create spectacle. Astana seems to not want to give me much rope in major races and I take it as a compliment. It means they think Contador is beatable. I also think he is. I expected more from him at the Dauphiné. Now at the Tour I’ll have to be consistent, be there every day and not lose too much time in the team time trial."

    Quite modest...and not so modest from Sr. Enrique Bernaola to put his name on a piece he didn't actually contribute much to himself.




    100 % agree with you
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