raceface crank removal

gaz047
gaz047 Posts: 601
edited June 2009 in MTB workshop & tech
hi, im trying to remove my raceface deus x chainset (got play in a shock bush and need to remove chainset to remove the shock).
i've undone the 8mm bolt on the drive side arm, but am having trouble removing the drive side chainrings/crankarm. is it just a case of using a mallet to help it on its way or have i missed something out?
been on park tools but only really goes into detail on the installation side of things, same with the silverfish site.
any help greatly appreciated

gaz
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    which version of the crankset is it?

    X type?
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  • gaz047
    gaz047 Posts: 601
    sorry, yeah nick its an x type
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    then put the ring that you took off with a 10mm allen key back in and then undo the 8mm bolt.

    Or get an ISIS crank extractor.
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  • gaz047
    gaz047 Posts: 601
    thanks for the quick reply nick, the only thing i've taken off is an 8mm bolt from the driveside. i can't see anything that would take a 10mm allen key...

    cheers
    gaz
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    it should be on there before the 8mm.

    http://www.raceface.com/tech/installation-instructions/
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  • gaz047
    gaz047 Posts: 601
    i haven't got the 10mm crank puller cap on mine, just the 8mm bolt, dam!
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    so as i said ISIS crank extractor.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • gaz047
    gaz047 Posts: 601
    thanks for your quick replys and help nick, extractor it is .
    cheers
    gaz
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  • anjs
    anjs Posts: 486
    Some pics and info here. The newer ones dont have the self extracting bolt.

    http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/forums/vie ... highlight=
  • gaz047
    gaz047 Posts: 601
    anjs - cheers mate got the extractor from the lbs and all sorted now 8) . shame the new ones dont have the self extracting bolt!
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  • the phantom pieman
    the phantom pieman Posts: 165
    Having asked the same question - and got the same answers about two weeks ago , here is the solution ....

    For some perverse reason RaceFace using a effing stupid crank extractor size - it is 27mm (I think) rather than the std 20mm

    To save yourself a huge amount of aggro in finding the right Park tool ( there is one) the way to do it is:-

    Undo retaining 8mm bolt
    Turn bike upside down.
    Get a soft nosed peening hammer or similar
    Tap (hard) in rotation each of the inner chaining ring retaining bolts .... keep on going around in a circle (or in fact, just rotating the crank)
    You will then the see the BB begins to move along the splines
    Keep on doing until it slides off easily - takes about 2 minutes (unlike the hours spent trying to source the right tool)

    It work for me (06 Evolve XC) and if it damages the bearings I will be amazed. If it causes premature wear on the crank, so be it. I would rather then fit something that isn't so user unfriendly to use

    The chain rings were crap and made from canadian cheese, I guess the crank set will be of similar quality - it's a self serving design :evil:
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  • gaz047
    gaz047 Posts: 601
    nice one phantom pieman! been a right pain in the arse and took me a couple of hours to get the extractor (bought extractor used as told, no joy. had to go back to lbs for a push pad :evil: fortunatly for me they had a spare and let me have it. phew! ). thanks for the tips mate much appreciated, much prefer shimano cranks......ballache!
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