Di2 on sale now

il_principe

Jaysus - it's a mere £2324.68...

http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=D0021

itboffin

Il Principe wrote:

Jaysus - it's a mere £2324.68...

http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=D0021

I might get one for my hybrid

roger_merriman

be intresting if it catches on and comes down market, i'll need to conviced that i need to charge my bike.

but its very much something to watch.

_Brun_

The shifters, derailleurs and electronic gubbins can be had for just £1300.

Does anyone know if they're compatible with Sora chainset and cassette? I might email them and ask.

Eau Rouge

The real interesting thing will be when/if bike makers start to design bikes around it. Right now it's little more than an electronic version of what we already have, with a pretty clunky integration with the rest of the bike as it tries to fit into the current design. Someone is going to build a frame with a build-in battery location and fully internal wiring. There is no reason the rear mechs wire can't run inside a chainstay, for example.

Some TT bikes have already started using the buttons thing to have gear shifters on more than just the ends of the aero-bars, for example. That sort of thing (shifter in all three hand positions on drop bars maybe) and mich better placement of the battery, etc will be interesting to see.
Give them a few versions, but auto-gears anyone? Input your desired cadence range, it tries it's best to keep you there by shifting, no more input from you.

il_principe

Eau Rouge wrote:

The real interesting thing will be when/if bike makers start to design bikes around it. Right now it's little more than an electronic version of what we already have, with a pretty clunky integration with the rest of the bike as it tries to fit into the current design. Someone is going to build a frame with a build-in battery location and fully internal wiring. There is no reason the rear mechs wire can't run inside a chainstay, for example.

Some TT bikes have already started using the buttons thing to have gear shifters on more than just the ends of the aero-bars, for example. That sort of thing (shifter in all three hand positions on drop bars maybe) and mich better placement of the battery, etc will be interesting to see.
Give them a few versions, but auto-gears anyone? Input your desired cadence range, it tries it's best to keep you there by shifting, no more input from you.

+1 I think the autoshifting thing has been mooted - it's have to be v easy to switch modes on the fly, but a nice idea.

I'm following electronic with interest - I'm a total gadget freak. Maybe in 3/4 years time when it's all bedded in and I'm poss considering a new bike, that's when I'll jump on. Good like to all the MK1 guinea pigs for now.

Greg T

I still haven't got a playstation.

My life is an empty shell

Gazzaputt

For the money the groupo costs better buying this http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Focus_Izalco_Extreme_Di2_2009/5360037580/

Christophe3967

Greg T wrote:

I still haven't got a playstation.

My life is an empty shell

You have children - just be patient. After riding a bike round town I often feel that I have been in an interactive playstation game. You just don't get as many lives...

cullen_bay

ive tried this stuff, its really nice.

Bassjunkieuk

Eau Rouge wrote:

The real interesting thing will be when/if bike makers start to design bikes around it. Right now it's little more than an electronic version of what we already have, with a pretty clunky integration with the rest of the bike as it tries to fit into the current design. Someone is going to build a frame with a build-in battery location and fully internal wiring. There is no reason the rear mechs wire can't run inside a chainstay, for example.

Some TT bikes have already started using the buttons thing to have gear shifters on more than just the ends of the aero-bars, for example. That sort of thing (shifter in all three hand positions on drop bars maybe) and mich better placement of the battery, etc will be interesting to see.
Give them a few versions, but auto-gears anyone? Input your desired cadence range, it tries it's best to keep you there by shifting, no more input from you.

I quite like the idea of seeing how the bike companies can integrate this into frames, at the moment I can see quite an interesting point whereby the wiring is fixed into the frame, could be interesting to just run thin metal strips on the inside of carbon tubes and just have terminals to connect to the shifters and mechs.

lost_in_thought

That 'sneak peek' video is a whole world of annoying! Nonetheless, if it works then good on them - it seems, however, that all they've gained in performance by computerising it is automatic indexing on the front derailleur... cool, but is it worth it?

Aidy

lost_in_thought wrote:

That 'sneak peek' video is a whole world of annoying! Nonetheless, if it works then good on them - it seems, however, that all they've gained in performance by computerising it is automatic indexing on the front derailleur... cool, but is it worth it?

The whole auto-trimming of the front derailleur is cool, but the entire system as a whole looks to have a stack of small advantages over a purely mechanical system. Other performance gains are shifting slightly too far and then back again, and shifting at optimal times.

Worth it? Probably not - that's a fair chunk of cash
Hopefully in time it'll progress down the groupsets though, we'll see.

Roastie

Greg T wrote:

I still haven't got a playstation.

My life is an empty shell

Freak.

cyberknight

didnt mavic do an electronic shifter donkeys a go? i remember the zap mavic on the tour de france?

http://www.bikepro.com/products/rear_derailleurs/maviczap_rrder.html


Yup 1994 i looked it up

and pasted from a page...........


Electronic gear-shifting technology has spent a long time in development. Prototypes of Mavic’s first system, the Zap, made a cameo appearance at the 1992 Tour de France and the company introduced its second attempt, the Mektronic, in 1999.

cjcp

cyberknight wrote:

didnt mavic do an electronic shifter donkeys a go? i remember the zap mavic on the tour de france?

Yep, I think they did.

Good review in this month's C+ about this. Battery on the downtube? Yuk. And imagine the wheels you could get for that price!

cyberknight

im sure the zap had the batteries in the handlebars i think its was a bit crappy as a unit but i suppose good for its time considering how far electronics have come since then

gribble remembers when the zx 81 home pc came out with 1 k of ram