What happened to proper frames?

mtbhenry888

I'm looking for a decent steel frame, not for audax or winter use, not for deep drop brakes and mudgaurds i'm looking for a traditional steel either lugged or tig welded ideally frame for general summer road duties, can i find one suitable, not really.

Ritchey make a breakaway frame and the frame itself is ideal tig welded, plain steel except at £700 i cant justify the cost as i will never travel with it.

Bob Jackson make a olympus frame off the peg for £400 with custom colour options, it's a traditional lugged road frame with a 1 1/8th headset, ideal execpt for the 11 week waiting list, but this is what i will go for if i cannot find anything else.

any other ideas, roberts are way too expensive for me at the moment, no-one seems to make a steel off the shelf road bike complete anymore and titanium doesn't do it for me like steel does, and its twice the price

any info or ideas would be great

kingrollo

Brian Rourke ?

Slow Downcp

Mercian Cycles - custom or off the peg. They also have some decent offers on their website.

jalapeno

Salsa have nice steel road frames, off the peg and pretty good value

passout

I'd say Salsa too.

neonwarhead

Enigma Elite?

http://www.enigmabikes.com/index.php?_a ... oductId=14

bianchi777

Bianchi do a nice steel frame...the Dolomiti

http://www.bianchi.com/en/products2009/ ... Y9BE7.aspx

acorn_user

Just get a custom frame (e.g. Woodrup, Ellis Brigg, Steve Goff + + +). In most cases, it will be easier and cheaper and more fun. You might try Byer Cycles, SJSC, Condor or Hewitt too.

There are a number of Italian makes that still have nice steel bikes in their line ups too.

huuregeil

Wilson seem to carry a stock of frames:
http://www.wilsoncycles.co.uk/frames.htm

Villiers make custom frames at quite decent prices:
http://villiers-velo.co.uk/

Poulsy

Colnago?

keef66

Fascinating stuff on the Wilson site. I liked the comment beside the reduced Iceni frame - "clearing out Reynolds to make room for carbon and alloy crap"

mtbhenry888

I like the look of the jf wilson stuff, ive got a budget for the frame which i should have mentioned before, around the £750 mark tops ideally £500-600 though

Harry182

Pergoretti

Dekerf

rupertm1

Condor Acciaio??

http://www.condorcycles.com/acciaio.html

jessand

Jamis would seem to be right up your street. Godd choice of steel frames, well regarded, reasonable price - except I don't think you can just buy the frames! Might still be worth a look though. I don't know the details but there's a thread in the beginners section today.

pianoman

You can't buy the Jamis as a frame only - and you can only get them in Chorley at Buy A Bike.

Give Paul Hewitt a call and see what he can come up with - his steel frames have received outstanding reviews.

Failing all that, choose "steel for the 21st century" - TITANIUM

mister biscuit

kona honky-tonk? http://www.konaworld.com/09_honkytonk_en.cfm

it even comes with down-tube shifters for the retro-grouch in you

charlesf

Good luck with getting any email reply from Buy a Bike

JonEdwards

Colnago Master surely? Or Pegoretti

Or any of the UK custom builders who work in steel. Robin Mather does some beautiful stuff, but I think he's stopped taking orders currently.

mtbhenry888

yeah buy-a-bikes website is down also i really would like something a bit nicer than a jamis, either properly handbuilt or itialian!

edhornby

i'm guessing genesis frames you've looked at ??

Chip \'oyler

A Bob Jackson 631 frame made to measure should fall in your price bracket

Mithras

Arthur Caygill Cycles up in Richmond do some lovely steel frames.

reckless_rat

what about cotic frames ?