Well, Kohl's just wrong...or is he?

donrhummy
donrhummy Posts: 2,329
edited June 2009 in Pro race
Is it just me or does this feel like a reaction to Kohl's comments that the Bio Passport HELPED doping? It seems like they're scrambling to prove him wrong. For over a year, zero suspensions. Kohl says the passport helped him dope and BAM passport-led suspensions. might be unrelated though.
The International Cycling Union (UCI) announced that it will be taking disciplinary action against an undisclosed number of professional riders whose biological passports have shown abnormal results, at a press conference in Paris on Wednesday.

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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Both are right. The bio passport can help catch riders but at the same time, riders can manipulate their data to provide a false "baseline" of haematological and endocrinal data to give the UCI a false sense. For example, prior to be banned, Ivan Basso presented normal blood values when now it appears he was doping.
  • diarmuid
    diarmuid Posts: 73
    Kléber wrote:
    Ivan Basso presented normal blood values when now it appears he was doping.
    you mean "Ivan Basso presented normal blood values when now it appears he was attempting to dope" :lol:
  • stagehopper
    stagehopper Posts: 1,593
    Kléber wrote:
    Both are right. The bio passport can help catch riders but at the same time, riders can manipulate their data to provide a false "baseline" of haematological and endocrinal data to give the UCI a false sense. For example, prior to be banned, Ivan Basso presented normal blood values when now it appears he was doping.

    The thing with the passport though is I think it''s much harder to provide a false baseline. 3D v 2D as an analogy you could say.
    @stagehopper
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    I somewhat agree with the legal action...Kohl is perhaps trying to make himself feel better about what he did by saying everyone did it , when infact that is not true is it?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKBacb2V ... ata_player
  • nick hanson
    nick hanson Posts: 1,655
    diarmuid wrote:
    Kléber wrote:
    Ivan Basso presented normal blood values when now it appears he was doping.
    you mean "Ivan Basso presented normal blood values when now it appears he was attempting to dope" :lol:
    I thought Basso didn't dope,just had the blood stored,incase he felt the need to dope? :lol:
    so many cols,so little time!
  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    Dave_1 wrote:
    I somewhat agree with the legal action...Kohl is perhaps trying to make himself feel better about what he did by saying everyone did it , when infact that is not true is it?

    I don't know. And there's the issue with anti-doping in sports. Even if they catch dopers, there's not even a 75% certainty that the rest (who weren't caught) are actually drug-free. So what's the solution? No idea, but simply continuing with the drug tests in random and only on top placers isn't it. There's got to be a way to do more testing and somehow get a bulk pricing discount (as well as get more money from sponsors/teams for this) but there still needs to be more done to keep guys from doping in the first place. Suspensions, even life-time bans aren't enough. Since the death penalty doesn't stop the majority of people who "would" commit crimes that carry such a penalty, what makes people think a lifetime ban will stop anyone?
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Hell, people still try to cheat at cards and the like in Vegas casinos. Even though they know they are being watched and will be prosecuted, they still think they can "get it over"
    on the casinos. More than a few get caught and no one knows how many don't. Sounds
    like exactly what's happening with drugs in sports.

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