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Red - FR TDI 1.9 PDDonDaddyD wrote:You both drive Ibiza's? What registration, reg, colour and spec?David
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Roastiecp wrote:Sea_Green_Incorruptible wrote:Chorus 11 on the Ribble for that price? Astonishing value. Astonishing.
That said, I'd go for the Kuota. You KNOW its all about the heart at this price point. Nobody looks twice at a Ribble (or frankly whether your groupset is Chorus or Ultergra - or at least Chorus or Mirage, and only then because of the lack of visible cables from the shifters). I'd swivle my head round for the Kuota though. Every single time. Ask Mike at Strada - he'll pursuade you!
It all depends if you buy a bike to ride, or to try to impress other people?
I take the point. But I do think it goes deeper than that. Frankly, for a grand most of us on here will be buying a bike that can soak up our ability levels with ease. Why spend £800+ odd on a carbon frame when you can get a complete Boardman or Ribble or whatever for a grand? Frankly, why not just buy an Allez or Giant Defy? I'm not saying any of these aren't great bikes. Precisely the opposite in fact - they'll do the job as hard as most of us can push them.
Going above a certain level of bike spec is inevitably a luxury purchase to some degree unless you're in the pro-Tour. We buy bikes for all sorts of reasons. Uniqueness, flair, brand premium all come into it and add to the aura of a bike for you personally. In this context, rarity value, the name the downtube, campag over shimano components or whatever are all valid reasons for choosing one above the other. There is always the sensible utililitarian option available - but let's not pretend that its always the most desirable one. In the end it's about 'want' not 'need'.
In the end, I don't think it's about impressing OTHER people. It's about impressing yourself every time you open the garage door.0 -
Sea_Green_Incorruptible wrote:Roastiecp wrote:Sea_Green_Incorruptible wrote:Chorus 11 on the Ribble for that price? Astonishing value. Astonishing.
That said, I'd go for the Kuota. You KNOW its all about the heart at this price point. Nobody looks twice at a Ribble (or frankly whether your groupset is Chorus or Ultergra - or at least Chorus or Mirage, and only then because of the lack of visible cables from the shifters). I'd swivle my head round for the Kuota though. Every single time. Ask Mike at Strada - he'll pursuade you!
It all depends if you buy a bike to ride, or to try to impress other people?
I take the point. But I do think it goes deeper than that. Frankly, for a grand most of us on here will be buying a bike that can soak up our ability levels with ease. Why spend £800+ odd on a carbon frame when you can get a complete Boardman or Ribble or whatever for a grand? Frankly, why not just buy an Allez or Giant Defy? I'm not saying any of these aren't great bikes. Precisely the opposite in fact - they'll do the job as hard as most of us can push them.
Going above a certain level of bike spec is inevitably a luxury purchase to some degree unless you're in the pro-Tour. We buy bikes for all sorts of reasons. Uniqueness, flair, brand premium all come into it and add to the aura of a bike for you personally. In this context, rarity value, the name the downtube, campag over shimano components or whatever are all valid reasons for choosing one above the other. There is always the sensible utililitarian option available - but let's not pretend that its always the most desirable one. In the end it's about 'want' not 'need'.
In the end, I don't think it's about impressing OTHER people. It's about impressing yourself every time you open the garage door.
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Sea_Green_Incorruptible wrote:Roastiecp wrote:Sea_Green_Incorruptible wrote:Chorus 11 on the Ribble for that price? Astonishing value. Astonishing.
That said, I'd go for the Kuota. You KNOW its all about the heart at this price point. Nobody looks twice at a Ribble (or frankly whether your groupset is Chorus or Ultergra - or at least Chorus or Mirage, and only then because of the lack of visible cables from the shifters). I'd swivle my head round for the Kuota though. Every single time. Ask Mike at Strada - he'll pursuade you!
It all depends if you buy a bike to ride, or to try to impress other people?
I take the point. But I do think it goes deeper than that. Frankly, for a grand most of us on here will be buying a bike that can soak up our ability levels with ease. Why spend £800+ odd on a carbon frame when you can get a complete Boardman or Ribble or whatever for a grand? Frankly, why not just buy an Allez or Giant Defy? I'm not saying any of these aren't great bikes. Precisely the opposite in fact - they'll do the job as hard as most of us can push them.
Going above a certain level of bike spec is inevitably a luxury purchase to some degree unless you're in the pro-Tour. We buy bikes for all sorts of reasons. Uniqueness, flair, brand premium all come into it and add to the aura of a bike for you personally. In this context, rarity value, the name the downtube, campag over shimano components or whatever are all valid reasons for choosing one above the other. There is always the sensible utililitarian option available - but let's not pretend that its always the most desirable one. In the end it's about 'want' not 'need'.
In the end, I don't think it's about impressing OTHER people. It's about impressing yourself every time you open the garage door.
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Roastiecp wrote:
Don't get me wrong - nothing against the Kharma.DonDaddyD wrote:That assumes that the Kharma isn't for riding. I can assure it is, as is all the other bikes in the range (some ridden by pro teams...). The Kharma was Cycling Weeky's bike of 2007 and they've developed upon it for 2009. It was tested against Obea, Focus and other bikes...
But if I had £750ish burning in my pocket for a road bike (to go fast on), I'd take a Ribble over the Kuota anyday because £ for £, you get a "better" bike.
How is it the better bike!?We the Kuota isn't really that light
Sorry DDD
Yes it is light... It may not be as light as your Prince but its light!Same weight as my Trek 1.7 ouch
Sorry DDD
It's lighter than your Trek, the scales in the bike shop was wrong.Food Chain number = 4
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Sea_Green_Incorruptible wrote:In the end, I don't think it's about impressing OTHER people. It's about impressing yourself every time you open the garage door.
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So to paraphrase, because it is something that *you* find beautiful? I can dig that. Totally.Sea_Green_Incorruptible wrote:I take the point.
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In the end, I don't think it's about impressing OTHER people. It's about impressing yourself every time you open the garage door.
So, let me modify my argument. Perhaps there are three categories:
1. Buy a bike to ride
2. Buy a bike for what it means to you (beauty, self expression, ...)
3. Buy a bike to impress.
But, of course, there are more. Obviously it would not be as simple as a choice of even one of the above. But if predominantly you want something to ride - it has to be bang for buck, and damn the name on the downtube.David
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Roastiecp wrote:
So to paraphrase, because it is something that *you* find beautiful? I can dig that. Totally.Sea_Green_Incorruptible wrote:I take the point.
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In the end, I don't think it's about impressing OTHER people. It's about impressing yourself every time you open the garage door.
So, let me modify my argument. Perhaps there are three categories:
1. Buy a bike to ride
2. Buy a bike for what it means to you (beauty, self expression, ...)
3. Buy a bike to impress.
But, of course, there are more. Obviously it would not be as simple as a choice of even one of the above. But if predominantly you want something to ride - it has to be bang for buck, and damn the name on the downtube.
You're right of course. It would be insane to buy a bike that you hadn't test ridden or one that didn't fit or felt awful when you did. But we're talking about two pretty capable bikes here and so the choice is - in practice I think - less stark than that.
Also, I suspect that 1 and 2 are more closely linked than is often acknowledged. I'm sure I used to go faster on my Cervelo (damn its flimsy Canadian soul) in part BECAUSE it was a Cervelo and I'd spent a packet on it...0 -
Do a bit of research on the Dedacciai Scuro RS and you'll see. Not being derogatory to the Khama (which is a lovely frame), it is entry level where the Scuro is pro-peleton material.David
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I don't see you guys enough especially in cars to be affected....Food Chain number = 4
A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
Roastiecp wrote:Do a bit of research on the Dedacciai Scuro RS and you'll see. Not being derogatory to the Khama (which is a lovely frame), it is entry level where the Scuro is pro-peloton material.
Oh I agree.
I was speaking more specifically between the Ribble Sportive frame and the Kharma Frame.Food Chain number = 4
A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
Probably not much in it, apart from the £400 you'd have left over to put towards (e..g) a Powertap hub or a wheel upgrade if you went for the Ribble.DonDaddyD wrote:Roastiecp wrote:Do a bit of research on the Dedacciai Scuro RS and you'll see. Not being derogatory to the Khama (which is a lovely frame), it is entry level where the Scuro is pro-peloton material.
Oh I agree.
I was speaking more specifically between the Ribble Sportive frame and the Kharma Frame.David
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Ribble.
Tho' I'd (personally) be more tempted by the (Ribble) Dedacciai Scuro RS (or HCR, depending on your pref) - that is a proper superbike frame.
Except you can't get a Scuro at the moment!
(unless you want a 51cm frame) as this is all they have left and this has been the case for some time.
This is part of the reason why the Sportive is so popular at the moment.0 -
What sort of wait times are they quoting? I reckon a Scuro RS would be worth the wait.sturmey wrote:Ribble.
Tho' I'd (personally) be more tempted by the (Ribble) Dedacciai Scuro RS (or HCR, depending on your pref) - that is a proper superbike frame.
Except you can't get a Scuro at the moment!
(unless you want a 51cm frame) as this is all they have left and this has been the case for some time.
This is part of the reason why the Sportive is so popular at the moment.David
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Well most people seem to be waiting at least 4 weeks at the moment-but that is for bikes built from frames they already have in stock. I wouldn't hold out for a Scuro- you could be waiting for ever. And an email enquiry about it is likely to go unanswered.
Not trying to create adverse publicity for them as I have bought one of their bikes myself. Just telling you how it is!0 -
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Yes, but your trek is made of aluminium and has straight seatstays that are making you sterile. It also looks like someone painted with a gloy paste and glitter after watching Take Hart, and has a brand name that was the winner in the "cool bike names" contest in a Sacremento kindergarten contest in around 1970.itboffin wrote:jashburnham wrote:gtvlusso wrote:It's gtvlusso's indecisive corner time!
In the red corner, weighing in at bloody light, well specced and ridden by the coolest person I have never met (DDD) - Kuota Kharma frameset - Around £750 all in.
We the Kuota isn't really that light
Sorry DDD :shock:
Same weight as my Trek 1.7 ouch :?
Sorry DDD :P
(Arguably)
Whereas the Kuota is an elegant nude carbon fibre work of art.
So weight isn't everything - prticularly in a frame, which is only about 15% of the bike's weight.
So there.
(This to make DDD feel better and resist the urge to start cutting bits off to reduce the headline weight).0 -
Two things.Always Tyred wrote:Yes, but your trek is made of aluminium
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Whereas the Kuota is an elegant nude carbon fibre work of art.
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So weight isn't everything - prticularly in a frame...
First - agree wholeheartedly on frame weight being overrated. Of greater concern is getting the mix of stiffness/vertical compliance/longevity right for the intended purpose.
The 1.7 would probably make a better commuter (or or even crit bike), the Kharma better for weekend jaunts.David
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Always Tyred wrote:Yes, but your trek is made of aluminum and has straight seatstays that are making you sterile. It also looks like someone painted with a gloy paste and glitter after watching Take Hart, and has a brand name that was the winner in the "cool bike names" contest in a Sacramento kindergarten contest in around 1970.
@AT i've highlighted some FACTS for you there, namely making me sterile oh please god yes! yes! yes! (don't have children yet do you AT?) Tony Heart was a genius and should be made a saint FACT! and finally everything from the 70s is/was and always will be cool.
FACT-u-licious yummy! :PRule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
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Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
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Was also just looking at the PX site - the SL Carbon is nice, but I have never been a fan of "extreme" compact geometry!
As for my Ribble TT build.... :oops: .....I have just ordered a headset and some Navigator track wheels to finish it!
Best finish and use that before I commit serious notes to the table for a Ribble Sportive....or a Pro-Lite Galileo or PX SL....aaaaarrrgggh!!! You see my dilemma!
I will be self building, as ever, but am in a quandary as not all the companents I have are completely compatible with each frameset - don't want to have to splash out on braze on mechs, seat post and maybe even BB's.....
Also gonna use the bike over winter so, full carbon may be a bad move! Anyone got any experience of full carbon over the sh!tty months?!0 -
I beg to differ....itboffin wrote:and finally everything from the 70s is/was and always will be cool.
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No experience - but provided you don't mind getting it dirty, carbon (material wise) is better suited to winter duty than ally or steel from the point of view that it will not corrode. Epoxy is very hardy stuff.gtvlusso wrote:Anyone got any experience of full carbon over the sh!tty months?!David
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Anyone seen any reviews of the Scuro RS?Liverpool Mercury CC0
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Head tells you ribble (though calling a 'sportive' in my view makes it spectacually naff, hence heart says go for the Kuota.
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Stuey01 wrote:Anyone know where I can buy the pedalforce rs2 in the UK?
I spent all last night staring at the ribble in C+ and love the curves (and the price) but am not a fan of the graphics. the plain pedalforce would be spot on for the aesthetics I'm going for.
I got a Pedal Force frame and forks off ebay last Autumn. It is so plain it doesn't have a single sticker on it and the carbon is a matt finish rathert than gloss/lacquered. V. Cool.
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Always whats wrong with a Viva, obviously besides the rust, they were an ok car for the time, the Brabham and Firenza still look good.
I've had a scandium framed ribble for a few years now, and its been a good bike.
Bloody southerners, don't know good value when they see it.
Bet Weirdmire's a southerner.0
