Wilier - La Triestina

Sewinman
Sewinman Posts: 2,131
edited July 2009 in Commuting chat
I went to my LBS (De Ver) and was persuaded to get the above on the C2W scheme. I think its very pretty but is it any good? I could cancel it.

He also said i needed an XXL - and he was going to put a shorter stem on. I was surprised by the size but he measured me up with a lazer thing so maybe its right.

http://www.airevalleycycles.com/product ... 1b0s6p4550
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  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    It's a great bike don't worry.
  • Fireblade96
    Fireblade96 Posts: 1,123
    I'm hoping it's a good'un - there's one sitting in my LBS with my name on it, waiting for a cycle to work voucher to arrive so I can go pick it up !

    I had a test ride on it and all seemed well, plus it looks great in white :-)
    Misguided Idealist
  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    Looks lovely! Did you actually have a go on it?

    Lasers are not necessarily ambassadors of truth...
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  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    Looks lovely! Did you actually have a go on it?

    Lasers are not necessarily ambassadors of truth...

    I did not have a go, cos it had come out of the box and was not fit to ride. But he said to come in at the weekend and I could take it out before buying.

    I like the fact that the bike shop is at the end of my road and the guy knows me by my first name and asked to do the London to Brighton with them....
  • Fireblade96
    Fireblade96 Posts: 1,123
    @Sewinman - what height are you ? I'm about 5'7 and have ordered a M, after going through some extremely thorough measuring in the shop. On the test ride it felt good, but the position needed a little tweaking which should all be part of the service.
    Misguided Idealist
  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    Fireblade96 wrote:
    @Sewinman - what height are you ? I'm about 5'7 and have ordered a M, after going through some extremely thorough measuring in the shop. On the test ride it felt good, but the position needed a little tweaking which should all be part of the service.

    I am about 6 foot 1 inch.
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Wilier's rock! End of. You'll love it.
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    My Kharma is a medium, my Giant is a large. Both fit. May be a case of what they have in stock as oppose to what fits...

    My honest thoughts on a La Triestina:
    The black looks sexy. I do feel it is somewhat over-priced at £999 with Mirage (tiagra level groupset), and a aluminium frame with carbon seatstays.

    For £999 you could get a Specialized Allez with carbon seatstays and the ever popular 105 groupset (a level up). For a little more you could get a Scott CR1 (with 105) for around £1300.

    [/b]OR[/b] (and this is what I would do)

    Spend £300/£400 more and buy a Mortirolo (Cycling Plus 3 best bike of the year after the Time and Giant TCR). The Mortirolo is carbon fibre, gives a ride smoother than my Kharma (and coming from me, that is saying something), looks damn sexy and comes with Veloce.

    DeVer usually offer discount as well...
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  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    The Mortirolo with 105 is £1649. I can't afford that.

    Don't really fancy the Spesh or Scott...I am a brand tart and like the name and the nice writing! :oops:

    The guy made me laugh in the shop - told me I would snap a cheap carbon frame and when measuring me said 'you have some work to do mate'. :shock: :D
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    First rule of buying a bike. Pour the majority of your money into the frame. A Mortirolo with Mirage (the same gorupset as the La Triestina) is £1299. A Mortirolo with Veloce is £1549 and probably money better spent as its a completely better frame with better groupset.

    Specialized is a solid brand, market leaders. You could consider them Mercedes in that they provide a bike for everyone.

    Scott has pedigree as well, the CR range while an outgoing model is solid, light and proper good.

    How heavy are you to be told that!? :shock:
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  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    First rule of buying a bike. Pour the majority of your money into the frame. A Mortirolo with Mirage (the same gorupset as the La Triestina) is £1299. A Mortirolo with Veloce is £1549 and probably money better spent as its a completely better frame with better groupset.

    Specialized is a solid brand, market leaders. You could consider them Mercedes in that they provide a bike for everyone.

    Scott has pedigree as well, the CR range while an outgoing model is solid, light and proper good.

    How heavy are you to be told that!? :shock:

    Thanks for your advice, but I think i would rather spend the extra cash on a Garmin Edge - then ride the **** out of the bike and get a really nice one in a few years.

    14 stone.
  • Fireblade96
    Fireblade96 Posts: 1,123
    I'm with Sewinman here (well, I would be, I'm buying a Triestina too)!
    After measuring, I test rode two bikes ; Giant Defy 1, Wilier Triestina. Defy was fine, comfortable but didn't inspire me, Wilier was sexy as hell and comfortable too. So I ordered it.

    The Wiier is still fairly good value - it's got a complete Campag Mirage groupset, not just bits of it. By contrast, the Giant or Spesh have just got bits of 105 with cheaper BB/cranks etc.

    (disclaimer: I'm busy at work and haven't got the time to check the details of this)
    Misguided Idealist
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Fair do's.

    Ultimately, its about buying the bike you want....
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    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
  • mountainroadie
    mountainroadie Posts: 244
    jashburnham is the best person to ask as he had one of these
    there is a guy who has one of these and works at LBS he loves his so much he is thinking of buying a LE ROI
    YOU WILL LOVE IT go for it 8)
  • Totalnewbie
    Totalnewbie Posts: 932
    Very nice!

    *jealous because someone high up at work evidently doesn't like cyclists and keeps blocking the cycle2work scheme*
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    The two of you will be very happy and and for the groupset it will be fine, I bought the Mirage groupo recently and thought out of the box it looked cheap but once i'd fitted it and ridden I changed my mind, smooth clean shifting and actually looks very cool plus it was very easy to set up & tweak, in no way does Mirage compare with Tiagra i'd say Mirage is at least as functional as 105.

    My next groupset purchase will be Campagnolo that's just as soon as I finish paying for the Dura Ace on my TT :wink:
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  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    I finally got my Wilier La Triestina last night. I put my egg beaters on it and used it for the commute today. I put some oil on the thread of the pedals, so hopefully that should be fine. First impressions is that the riding position is very different. I am much more forward with my head lower, the hoods are further around the drops than on my Trek. Its not uncomfortable but I wonder on long rides if I will be too stretched. I am thinking about asking for a shorter stem as the the guy in the shop said I might need one but try it out for a bit first. Am taking it for a long ride at the weekend to see how it feels.

    Other than that, its feels very fast, very stiff and very responsive. The steering seems more accurate too somehow. Its also super pretty. I can’t wait to try it without my bag at the weekend. I am going to revert to the Trek 1.2 for commuting and keep it for the weekends. Pleased.
    :lol:
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    Nice

    you'll be wearing Lycra next, oh wait!
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    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Sewinman wrote:
    I finally got my Wilier La Triestina last night. I put my egg beaters on it and used it for the commute today. I put some oil on the thread of the pedals, so hopefully that should be fine. First impressions is that the riding position is very different. I am much more forward with my head lower, the hoods are further around the drops than on my Trek. Its not uncomfortable but I wonder on long rides if I will be too stretched. I am thinking about asking for a shorter stem as the the guy in the shop said I might need one but try it out for a bit first. Am taking it for a long ride at the weekend to see how it feels.

    Other than that, its feels very fast, very stiff and very responsive. The steering seems more accurate too somehow. Its also super pretty. I can’t wait to try it without my bag at the weekend. I am going to revert to the Trek 1.2 for commuting and keep it for the weekends. Pleased.
    :lol:

    Congrats! Now pictures please. As for the hoods, you could try rotating the bars up a bit or even flip the stem. Bring her to Morpeth and we can take a gander. Best thing though, get a longride on your bike and see how you feel. When I get a new bike I tend to ride around with a minitool and make adjustments every now and again until I feel "zoned in"

    Enjoy! Wilier make stonking bikes eh?
  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    It'll ride better without your bag on your back. Enjoy!
  • Fireblade96
    Fireblade96 Posts: 1,123
    Good man ! What colour did you get ?
    I got mine just under 2 weeks ago - in white, it's gorgeous ! (and called "Tina", obviously...)

    I too feeel very stretched out on the hoods, but then I come from mountain biking! It's not uncofmortable, just taking a bit of getting used to. I did a 23-mile extended commute home last week and found my back started to hurt, but that was almost certainly related to the work rucksack with big D-lock and laptop ! Other, admittedly shorter rides have been fine in that respect.

    She's definitely responsive and fast - and I realise how unfit I really am !
    Misguided Idealist
  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    I got the black and red one. I have found a whole range of clothing to match the bike, Branded La Triestina but made by Castelli.....my CCs are literally jumping about in my wallet in excitement!

    http://store.atb-sales.co.uk/acatalog/W ... thing.html
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Sewinman wrote:
    I got the black and red one. I have found a whole range of clothing to match the bike, Branded La Triestina but made by Castelli.....my CCs are literally jumping about in my wallet in excitement!

    http://store.atb-sales.co.uk/acatalog/W ... thing.html

    Oh man that's purty stuff!
  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    Fireblade96 wrote:
    Good man ! What colour did you get ?
    I got mine just under 2 weeks ago - in white, it's gorgeous ! (and called "Tina", obviously...)

    I too feeel very stretched out on the hoods, but then I come from mountain biking! It's not uncofmortable, just taking a bit of getting used to. I did a 23-mile extended commute home last week and found my back started to hurt, but that was almost certainly related to the work rucksack with big D-lock and laptop ! Other, admittedly shorter rides have been fine in that respect.

    She's definitely responsive and fast - and I realise how unfit I really am !

    I named mine Tiberius Julius Caesar Augustus, or Tiberius for short.
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Sewinman wrote:
    Fireblade96 wrote:
    Good man ! What colour did you get ?
    I got mine just under 2 weeks ago - in white, it's gorgeous ! (and called "Tina", obviously...)

    I too feeel very stretched out on the hoods, but then I come from mountain biking! It's not uncofmortable, just taking a bit of getting used to. I did a 23-mile extended commute home last week and found my back started to hurt, but that was almost certainly related to the work rucksack with big D-lock and laptop ! Other, admittedly shorter rides have been fine in that respect.

    She's definitely responsive and fast - and I realise how unfit I really am !

    I named mine Tiberius Julius Caesar Augustus, or Tiberius for short.

    Tiberius! you named your bike Tiberius!?

    Oh man, that's not cool at all.

    (Nice bike)
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    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    @DDD - Tiberius was one of the greatest ever roman generals and gave the Germans an absolute shoeing.

    p.s. its a joke anyway, I don't name bikes.
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Sewinman wrote:
    @DDD - Tiberius was one of the greatest ever roman generals and gave the Germans an absolute shoeing.

    p.s. its a joke anyway, I don't name bikes.

    Unlike Publius Quinctilius Varus...
  • Fireblade96
    Fireblade96 Posts: 1,123
    Il Principe wrote:
    Sewinman wrote:
    @DDD - Tiberius was one of the greatest ever roman generals and gave the Germans an absolute shoeing.

    p.s. its a joke anyway, I don't name bikes.

    Unlike Publius Quinctilius Varus...

    ...or indeed Biggus Dickus :lol:
    Misguided Idealist
  • Fireblade96
    Fireblade96 Posts: 1,123
    Sewinman wrote:
    I got the black and red one. I have found a whole range of clothing to match the bike, Branded La Triestina but made by Castelli.....my CCs are literally jumping about in my wallet in excitement!

    http://store.atb-sales.co.uk/acatalog/W ... thing.html

    *must resist*
    I think I'm making myself enough of a target by riding a flash road bike, I don't think I'm fast enough to get away with wearing that sort of gear !
    Misguided Idealist
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Sewinman wrote:
    @DDD - Tiberius was one of the greatest ever roman generals and gave the Germans an absolute shoeing.

    p.s. its a joke anyway, I don't name bikes.

    Meh.... :roll:

    Tiberius is also the middle name of Captain Jame T Kirk. He is arguably the greatest commanding officer of Starfleet and the youngest Captain ever.

    He was the first student to defeat the Kobayashi Maru test - a computer test programmed to have no winnable outcome.

    Later Kirk time travelled on three seperate occasions and was by and large the scourge of the entire Klingon Empire.

    James T Kirks cultural impact is such that a he has a plaque in Riverside Iowa claiming that the State in America is the 'future birthplace' of Kirk.
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    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game

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