Will moving from 2.1 to 2.35 tyre reduce pinch flats?

lochussie
lochussie Posts: 276
edited June 2009 in MTB buying advice
Have had a lot with my 2.1 Nevegals but think this is prob down to low pressures. Am going to buy more Nevegals (unless these are esp prone to pinch flats?) as they perform fairly well and the choice of other tyres is bewildering. Would the greater volume of air in 2.35s reduce pinch flats? Then again, same psi means same vol of air. The 2.1 Nevegals are quite wide, are the 2.35s the same? I ride hardtail trail/mountain/freeride if that makes a difference.

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  • mtbikerboy
    mtbikerboy Posts: 325
    i've never had pinch flats on nevegals, that i would often get on other tyres, even on relatively low pressures, so try increasing the pressure in your tyres.

    the bit about moving from 2.1 to 2.35 i am not sure it would help unless you then run the wider tyre on higher pressure.
  • Andy B
    Andy B Posts: 8,115
    I run Nevegal 2.1's never had a pinch flat.

    The 2.35's are pretty big (as are the 2.1's) and noticeably draggier than the 2.1's

    try upping your tyre pressure a little
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  • M6TTF
    M6TTF Posts: 602
    I've had a few on my 2.1 dtc nevegals, but most of my trails are rocky. I'm contemplating going tubeless.
  • .blitz
    .blitz Posts: 6,197
    lochussie wrote:
    Will moving from 2.1 to 2.35 tyre reduce pinch flats?
    Can't comment on Nevegals but 2.1 Nobby Nics pinch flat just for fun whereas the 2.25s are loads better. Light, fast tyres are OK but there's a price to pay.
  • xtreem
    xtreem Posts: 2,965
    Put bigger inner tubes. For 2.35 tires, inside the 2.1.
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  • lochussie
    lochussie Posts: 276
    Cheers guys. I've been using 2-2.3 tubes, might try some slightly bigger ones.
  • Steve_b77
    Steve_b77 Posts: 1,680
    lochussie wrote:
    Would the greater volume of air in 2.35s reduce pinch flats? Then again, same psi means same vol of air. The 2.1 Nevegals are quite wide, are the 2.35s the same? I ride hardtail trail/mountain/freeride if that makes a difference.

    Cheers

    Greater volume will help reduce pinch flats, but stronger side walls will reduce them even more.

    Same psi does not mean same volume, if you run a larger tyre with teh same psi in it the air volume will increase within teh tyre as there is a larger volume of tyre to fill in the first place.

    When you say you ride HT trail/AM/Freeride, do you ride round trail centres, off the side of proper mountains or huck your way down them? if you're airing towards hucking why on earth are you riding 2.1" tyres?
  • lochussie
    lochussie Posts: 276
    With the same psi, stronger sidewalls will stop the tread part of the tyre compressing to the rim on big hits? Which tyres have strong sidewalls?

    I ride all the above but not hucking huge. As mentioned the Nevegals are pretty wide for 2.1. I'm happy with the grip from the 2.1s, but is there another advantage from wider tyres? Stability on landing, puncture resistance...?
  • dave_hill
    dave_hill Posts: 3,877
    I've found that Nevegals and Blue Grooves pinch-flat with alarming regularity, especially if I'm hanging it out in the rocky stuff.

    They have very thin sidewalls to keep the weight down, but this can mean that unless you inflate them to a reasonably high pressure, they flex too much. But of course, if the pressure in them is high, you lose grip.

    I find that 40psi is enough to prevent pinch flats, but I lose grip in the loose stuff at that.

    I've gone back to High Rollers.
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  • gezzza
    gezzza Posts: 324
    Go tubeless and never worry about pinch flats again
  • Dirtydog11
    Dirtydog11 Posts: 1,621
    lochussie wrote:
    Have had a lot with my 2.1 Nevegals but think this is prob down to low pressures. Am going to buy more Nevegals (unless these are esp prone to pinch flats?) as they perform fairly well and the choice of other tyres is bewildering. Would the greater volume of air in 2.35s reduce pinch flats? Then again, same psi means same vol of air. The 2.1 Nevegals are quite wide, are the 2.35s the same? I ride hardtail trail/mountain/freeride if that makes a difference.

    Cheers

    What pressures do you run? You need a pressure guage not tyres
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  • lochussie
    lochussie Posts: 276
    Cheers for advice guys. I ordered the Nevegals but CRC have missed the post, so am going to try to change order to something from Maxxis.
    Dirtydog11 wrote:
    You need a pressure guage not tyres
    The guage will make up for the fact that the tryes have worn out?
  • Dirtydog11
    Dirtydog11 Posts: 1,621
    The guage will make up for the fact that the tryes have worn out?



    No of course not. I thought the issue was with pinch flats, there is no mention of the tyres being worn.

    You'll pinch flat a 2.35 just the same as a 2.1 if you dont use the correct pressures for your riding style and weight.

    I'm not trying to be flipant I'm just pointing out that it is important to find a pressure that works for you irrespective of the size of tyre.
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  • Thewaylander
    Thewaylander Posts: 8,594
    pretty much most people i know on trail centers are riding with 2.35" tyres mostly for grip reasons.

    i found the wider tyres generally pinch less but thats usually they have heavier side walls, its a trade of with the type of riding you do.

    Everything i do is rocky and rooty and the wider tyres (2.35 kenda blue grooves) give excellent grip where something like the 2.1 squirms like it doesn't want to touch the ground.

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