Head-on impact!

AndyManc
AndyManc Posts: 1,393
edited June 2009 in Commuting chat
A well known you-tube head-cam using biker comes to grief.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alnDRqMaDqs&feature=channel_page



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  • gb155
    gb155 Posts: 2,048
    ouch
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  • AndyManc
    AndyManc Posts: 1,393
    I’ve watched it a few times, he was looking at the 2 people at the bus stop, he was probably making sure they didn't move, he looks up in shock when he realises he's heading straight for another cyclist.


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  • prj45
    prj45 Posts: 2,208
    Going too quickly, not paying attention.
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  • AllTheGear
    AllTheGear Posts: 248
    Did seem to lock his rear too, while trying to turn away. He would have made it if he had used the correct brake lever or perhaps not braked at all.
    ... and no idea ...

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  • Mike Healey
    Mike Healey Posts: 1,023
    And the other rider? Bombing thro' a narrow(ish) gap between the pedestrians and the hedge and failing to move back over to his left, apparently oblivious to the oncoming rider?
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  • _Brun_
    _Brun_ Posts: 1,740
    I'm pretty certain AllTheGear was talking about the 'other' rider. In the slow-mo you can clearly see his rear wheel is snaking around and doing absolutely nothing to slow him down.
  • AllTheGear
    AllTheGear Posts: 248
    I was talking about the oncoming rider locking up - thanks Brun. I think there's a bit of joint responsibility here, the oncoming rider got surprised and lost control, therefore certainly was riding too fast for the conditions and his skill. But also the camera bike was moving, towards what was clearly a pinch-point with pedestrians in the way. Camera guy did slow down though, although only during/after the near miss with the first oncoming rider.
    ... and no idea ...

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  • Kieran_Burns
    Kieran_Burns Posts: 9,757
    Actually - doesn't this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrQA_Q88 ... re=channel

    show it from the other way?

    Now you can see how poorly sighted the approach is. Which IMHO points the finger of blame squarely at the oncoming guy. He should know how bad that bit is and slowed right down accordingly.
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  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    so it's a blind spot, so slow to a speed that you can see?
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    I can't see how this was the helmet cam guy's fault at all. He's not going at an unreasonable speed and the guy coming the other way just looses the plot.

    In terms of slowing down so you can see far enough ahead - I think he was stationary by the time the guy cycled into him. I am not sure what else he could have been expected to do.
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Clearly the layout 'encourages' oncoming bikes (going too fast) to run wide as they pass the bst stop over to teh opposite kerb, not cam mans fault at all, its ironic that had cam man been 2 seconds earlier the first guy would have taken him down instead!

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  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    Always Tyred wrote:
    I can't see how this was the helmet cam guy's fault at all. He's not going at an unreasonable speed and the guy coming the other way just looses the plot.

    In terms of slowing down so you can see far enough ahead - I think he was stationary by the time the guy cycled into him. I am not sure what else he could have been expected to do.

    um i guess i should have been clear, in that the cam guy didn't seem to be a fault, the other was too wide and too fast.
  • Jay dubbleU
    Jay dubbleU Posts: 3,159
    roger merriman wrote:
    so it's a blind spot, so slow to a speed that you can see?

    +1

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