Tyre advice for Mavic XC717 rims

DrWorm

Hi,

I've got a set of wheels on their way to me and they have Mavic XC717 rims. The max width these can take according to the Mavic website is 2.10 - I'm currently running some quite wide 2.25's so will more than likely need some new tyres.

I'm after something light(ish) folding (400-550g each) ...the tyre will be used for a short commute on the road and then the usual bridalways, roads, green lanes, general xc etc etc ay weekend and evenings ... No heavy stuff and for the most part the stuff I ride on is dry mud, small rocks etc with only a couple of muddier sections that never seem to dry out.

I'm looking for a tyre(s) that will not kill me on my commute but will also not kill me the first time I go around a dusty/rocky corner. I'm happy to have different tyres on front and rear if that will get me a better setup. I've been looking all weekend and the choice is quite bewildering!

I've mainly been looking at the usual suspects from Conti, Schwalbe and Maxxis. Oh and I'd prefer to not go above £50 for the pair.

Thanks in advance... Dr Worm

nicklouse

you will be fine with your current tyres as long as you like them.

elPedro666

I'm running a Maxxix Mofo DH2.35 front & Scott Cougar 2.3 rear on my 517s (more or less the same) and have had no trouble at all. Had the front on skinnier hoops too.

Stick yours on see if they look ok before you squander any cash!
(do as I say, not as I do, seems appropriate :oops: )

DrWorm

nicklouse wrote:

you will be fine with your current tyres as long as you like them.

Yeah they are ok but my rear getting worn. Is it ok to just replace that?

The front is a wire bead and very heavy in comparison to say a folding conti speed king.

elPedro666

HAHA - you're just looking for an excuse!

For the record, my next set will be Conti Mountain King 2.4 front/Speed King 2.3 rear, Supersonics with Black Chili, hopefully tubeless (depends on the state of my rims at the time).

That'll be on 717s, most likely; unless my new forks mean the rear starts to get a battering!

Captain Turok

The web site might say 2.1, but the little sticker on the rims will probably say 2.3. Mine does!..

Conti speedking supersonic, 2.1 = 400g, 2.3 = 430g

Northwind

Yep, I reckon that the 2.1 on the website is an attempt to get more people to buy 719s personally, just Mavic putting a bit of distance between their products, as Turok says the rim says 2.3 below a certain PSI (60 I think) so trust the rim not the advert

Various "experts" might tell you that fat tyres on narrow rims "feel horrible" without ever saying what exactly feels horrible about them, but I've used the 2.1 and 2.35 nevegals on 717s, without any handling differences on the fat ones, no rolling, no tyre shear, no nothing. And now I do the same on wider rims, and apart from feeling more cushioned they're the same. No ill effects whatsoever on the 717s. I guess really low pressures would be more problematic, and the tyre might be more likely to roll off if you puncture.

elPedro666

There's so much stuff you're not supposed to do that really just isn't a problem - annoys me when newer riders think they can't use their "xc" bike at a trail-centre or whatever...

Like Northwind says - it's probably more about establishing a product line, differentiating & creating need. And perhaps cutting down on warranty claims.

Rant over! 8)

Captain Turok

elPedro666 wrote:

There's so much stuff you're not supposed to do that really just isn't a problem

+1 Totally agree!
I reckon the lawyers and the marketing guys are making stuff heavier and bigger than it probably needs to be for regular mortals, unless you're a 22stone american with an attack dog lawyer in tow..

elPedro666

Hope you're not just agreeing because I said nice things about your bikes...

Captain Turok

elPedro666 wrote:

Hope you're not just agreeing because I said nice things about your bikes...

You obviously have good taste
I'm just following Collin Chapmans lead re the weight thing.

Tank-slapper

I run 2.25 Nobby Nics in the winter on my 717's with no problems, although they actually measure less than 2.25. Am now running 2.1 Ralphs and they are excellent.

DrWorm

Cool, interesting info, thanks again fellas.