What Garmin?

DonDaddyD
DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
edited May 2009 in Commuting chat
OK basically I'd like to have a cycle computer with essentially SAT NAV (road maps) on it so that I can plan current/new and follow previously established routes.

Are Garmin the only company that does this. If so what Garmin range should I be looking at?
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  • prj45
    prj45 Posts: 2,208
    Go for the nuclear option and the Garmin Edge 705.

    Don't buy it without bundled maps though, at a minimum City Navigator.
  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    prj45 wrote:
    Go for the nuclear option and the Garmin Edge 705.

    Don't buy it without bundled maps though, at a minimum City Navigator.
    +1 I heart mine. ;)
    Jash, Lit (and numerous others on here, it seems) have them too. I got the road performance pack with City Navigator Europe maps. The maps worked in Surrey, worked in France: s'all good :D
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  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    JonGinge wrote:
    prj45 wrote:
    Go for the nuclear option and the Garmin Edge 705.

    Don't buy it without bundled maps though, at a minimum City Navigator.
    +1 I heart mine. ;)
    Jash, Lit (and numerous others on here, it seems) have them too. I got the road performance pack with City Navigator Europe maps. The maps worked in Surrey, worked in France: s'all good :D

    +another one! And +1 for the road performance/city navigator packs. When in oz, I downloaded routes onto it, and it still performed perfectly despite not having the maps for there...
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,062
    Save the money buy yourself a couple of co2 units and a bling bling ineffective but small & uber light carbon mini pump then get out and ride your bike(s) :P

    +1 Garmin
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  • Underscore
    Underscore Posts: 730
    If, like me, you are going to plan your routes in advance and review your ride afterwards but don't want your GPS to plan your route for you, you can do what I did, which is to download a version of OpenStreetMap to your device (and it's free - which is good provided the map is pretty complete in your location...). Mind you, if you're splashing out on a 705, why stop short of the pukka Garmin mapping?

    _
  • Christophe3967
    Christophe3967 Posts: 1,200
    I've researched this as well and come to the conclusion that the Garmin 705 is the only game in town. I just haven't manged to convince the Financial Controller yet. :?
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,062
    NST+Ovi maps (nokia sports tracker) is the way forward that's if you have a nokia phone

    Free as well.
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    I'm a Samsung mobile-phone man. That or an iPhone. Can't stand Nokia's.

    Looks like its a Garmin 705, which I was afraid of... There has to be a cheaper (not Nokia) Sat Nav option. Tom Tom's for cars start at £100 for Peter's sake!

    I wonder if I can attach a Tom Tom to my handle bars?
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  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I'm a Samsung mobile-phone man. That or an iPhone. Can't stand Nokia's.

    Looks like its a Garmin 705, which I was afraid of... There has to be a cheaper (not Nokia) Sat Nav option. Tom Tom's for cars start at £100 for Peter's sake!

    I wonder if I can attach a Tom Tom to my handle bars?

    I did this with my car Garmin (306t) - it is OK, you have to be a bit careful over bumps etc.

    Search 'tomtom handlebar mount' on google - I'm sure they make them.

    Note: it also looks a bit stupid.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,062
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    Underscore wrote:
    If, like me, you are going to plan your routes in advance and review your ride afterwards but don't want your GPS to plan your route for you, you can do what I did, which is to download a version of OpenStreetMap to your device (and it's free - which is good provided the map is pretty complete in your location...). Mind you, if you're splashing out on a 705, why stop short of the pukka Garmin mapping?

    _

    ooh thats intresting, do all the garmins support OpenStreetMap? thought thats rather patchy, SCR trippers note it's pritty poor in the beacons bar the few tourist traps.
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I'm a Samsung mobile-phone man. That or an iPhone. Can't stand Nokia's.

    Looks like its a Garmin 705, which I was afraid of... There has to be a cheaper (not Nokia) Sat Nav option. Tom Tom's for cars start at £100 for Peter's sake!

    I wonder if I can attach a Tom Tom to my handle bars?

    Or, you could put it in your back pocket to check when you get lost. Presumably you would roughly know where you were going.

    The prob I have with Garmin is size (they are large, as bike computers go) and the fact that they are bike specific (which limits their utility as a HRM).

    Personally, I'd go for a multisport watch (some of these are GPS compatible, so you can record where you go, and you can also get ones that have bike-sensor accessories) and get a bluetooth GPS for a phone. Most newer phones can have some form of mapping installed on them.
  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    so far i check os maps before and then when out and about assuming coverage i check where i am on the phone, but then i mostly am going to areas i know at least a little and am also one of those almost un loseable folk.
  • Jen J
    Jen J Posts: 1,054
    I got the 705 as although I'm quite capable at map-reading, I didn't want to keep stopping and checking where the next turning was. I wanted something in front of me that I could put a specified route into and it would tell me whether to go straight on or left etc.

    Anyway, it's all academic, as the one time I managed to take the 705 out and use it for directions, I ignored it for the first 15 miles, then decided to follow it for 10 miles until I realised it was taking me back to my first set point.

    It did get me back home when I was about 12 miles away and had lost patience with my own random navigation, and just set it for home. So it did it's main job, I just need to work out how to get it to accept my route...
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Jen J wrote:
    I got the 705 as although I'm quite capable at map-reading, I didn't want to keep stopping and checking where the next turning was. I wanted something in front of me that I could put a specified route into and it would tell me whether to go straight on or left etc.

    Anyway, it's all academic, as the one time I managed to take the 705 out and use it for directions, I ignored it for the first 15 miles, then decided to follow it for 10 miles until I realised it was taking me back to my first set point.

    It did get me back home when I was about 12 miles away and had lost patience with my own random navigation, and just set it for home. So it did it's main job, I just need to work out how to get it to accept my route...

    This is exactly what I want it for.

    OK, so lets start talking numbers £££. How much, who tends to offer the best deal. What package should I be looking at?
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    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
  • Jen J
    Jen J Posts: 1,054
    I'm too lazy to shop around, so just went with wiggle, after a brief check revealed their price was fairly similar to others offerings. This is their current deal

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Garmi ... 360035897/
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  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    If you are with O2 you get an xda for nothing,with superb gps and co-pilot live that talks to you and you can put memorymap on it too.Never get lost again.
    Smarter than the average bear.
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    edited May 2009
    The Edge 705 rocks. I got the HR version, not bothered with Cadence. Also got the City Navigator SD card for UK/Europe.

    Handtec have the best prices £261.05

    http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/904/garmin-edge-705-heart-rate-monitor

    Garmin SD/MicroSD data card - UK & Ireland £28.93

    http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/838/garmin-sd-microsd-data-card---uk---ireland--010-10691-00-

    Edited for VAT!!
  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    Don`t you pay vat then?
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  • Jen J
    Jen J Posts: 1,054
    OK, so if I bring a laptop and the 705 on the trip in August, please can we have training sessions each evening so that someone can show me how to use it? :roll:
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    edited May 2009
    The Edge 705 rocks. I got the HR version, not bothered with Cadence. Also got the City Navigator SD card for UK/Europe.

    Handtec have the best prices £227:

    http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/904/garmin-edge-705-heart-rate-monitor

    Garmin SD/MicroSD data card - UK & Ireland £25.16

    http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/838/garmin-sd-microsd-data-card---uk---ireland--010-10691-00-

    Around £250, now that's what I'm talking about!

    Edit: Mr Jash, always include the VAT.
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    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
  • _Brun_
    _Brun_ Posts: 1,740
    I got mine from pentagon gps. £340 with HR and cadence sensors, plus the City Navigator UK+Ireland SD card.
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Jen J wrote:
    OK, so if I bring a laptop and the 705 on the trip in August, please can we have training sessions each evening so that someone can show me how to use it? :roll:

    Yep, although we'll really need a wifi connection.
  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    itboffin wrote:
    NST+Ovi maps (nokia sports tracker) is the way forward that's if you have a nokia phone

    Free as well.

    I have downloaded this now - can you plan trip in advance?
  • Underscore
    Underscore Posts: 730
    Underscore wrote:
    If, like me, you are going to plan your routes in advance and review your ride afterwards but don't want your GPS to plan your route for you, you can do what I did, which is to download a version of OpenStreetMap to your device (and it's free - which is good provided the map is pretty complete in your location...). Mind you, if you're splashing out on a 705, why stop short of the pukka Garmin mapping?

    _

    ooh thats intresting, do all the garmins support OpenStreetMap? thought thats rather patchy, SCR trippers note it's pritty poor in the beacons bar the few tourist traps.

    I believe so. A mate has the 705 and is running it with OSM maps. I've got an eTrex Venture HCx (I've already got a cycle computer which does cadence and HR, and wanted a GPS that was much cheaper and was suitable for use off the bike - for geo-tagging photos, for instance) and it works fine with that.

    _