what else do i need??

andy83

ok so now i have my new road bike i want to really keep on top of the cleaning etc, scared to take it out in bad weather in case it gets dirty, and when i said " oh ill get some new wheels soon and a rubbish bike to commute on in bad weather" her reply was " can you please pay this one off first" lol, with a look of shock and confusion as to why i need more than one bike

anyway, have basic tools that i used to build up my old mountain bike and pretty good on the maintenance side

on my list to purchase when my insurance pay out comes for nicked bike is as follows

Inner tubes - now tyre says 700 x 25, should i get the 18-25 or 25-35 tubes?
Multitool
chain cleaner kit
saddle bag
track pump
bike cleaner
lube for chain
compact pump

now have i missed anything off. bear in mind i want to carry out most maintenance myself, would it be worth getting stuff like bottom bracket tools or crank extractors etc

hopefully moving house soon where i can have my own little workshop Very Happy

any personal preferences that can be recomended? prefably id like any of the recomendations to be off wiggle or at worst ebay

Thanks in advance

ps yes im scared to start commuting on it til i have track pump and spare tubes, already got pump for bag but not too great

Rich158

BB tools and crank extractors are an essential for any workshop ime, as is a spoke key. I'd also go for a decent set of allen keys. I'd also add in a chain whip and a tool for removing your casette, a grease gun, and dependant upon your hubs some cone spanners. Finally a good sharp set of cable cutters will be invaluable when you need to change you cables.

andy83

thanks very much

should have added from my previous maintance i have chain whip and cassette removing tool but think may need new one now. cone spanners also have. think have spoke key aswell somewhere

however im a bit of a collectamaniac and now im after eventually getting a park tools looking workshop, can bend the truth bout true cost of each said item lol. at least my bikes obsession is better than my old drinking and gambling :S

laughingboy

Rich158 wrote:

BB tools and crank extractors are an essential for any workshop ime, as is a spoke key. I'd also go for a decent set of allen keys. I'd also add in a chain whip and a tool for removing your casette, a grease gun, and dependant upon your hubs some cone spanners. Finally a good sharp set of cable cutters will be invaluable when you need to change you cables.

Which means you have two options: buy tools as and when you need them, until you are fully equipped. Or, when you first need an expensive/specialist tool, buy a tool kit that includes most of the above.

Tool kits give best value, but biggest initial outlay. I got a cheap one from Lidl (yes, Lidl - £20ish) that is perfectly adequate for the occasional bit of maintenance. You could of course spend more if you are genuinely going to wear tools out by constant use.

Rich158

At least with gambling you stand a chance of getting something back once in a while. Bike lust is just a bottomless pit you empty your money into

jonginge

Tyre levers? Probably have them but weren't in your list.

Most of the tools Rich mentioned are nice to haves rather than essentials. There needs to be a cost-benefit analysis done between your LBS servicing charges and the price of the tools. Some of them get rather pricy.

Spoke key and allen keys are essentials. A decent chain tool too. Can't really go wrong with the Park mark for tools.

EDIT: dang. Note to self: look at the entire thread before posting and type quicker

andy83

laughingboy wrote:

Rich158 wrote:

BB tools and crank extractors are an essential for any workshop ime, as is a spoke key. I'd also go for a decent set of allen keys. I'd also add in a chain whip and a tool for removing your casette, a grease gun, and dependant upon your hubs some cone spanners. Finally a good sharp set of cable cutters will be invaluable when you need to change you cables.

Which means you have two options: buy tools as and when you need them, until you are fully equipped. Or, when you first need an expensive/specialist tool, buy a tool kit that includes most of the above.

Tool kits give best value, but biggest initial outlay. I got a cheap one from Lidl (yes, Lidl - £20ish) that is perfectly adequate for the occasional bit of maintenance. You could of course spend more if you are genuinely going to wear tools out by constant use.

got a bufget lifeline one i think which sees me through most things.

also think its the fact i have nothing to collect/wast money on so have decided tools is next part, and i enjoy building bikes so they will get their use

At least with gambling you stand a chance of getting something back once in a while. Bike lust is just a bottomless pit you empty your money into Wink

true in some cases but in mine just ran up big debts and problems lol

Tyre levers? Probably have them but weren't in your list.

Most of the tools Rich mentioned are nice to haves rather than essentials. There needs to be a cost-benefit analysis done between your LBS servicing charges and the price of the tools. Some of them get rather pricy.

Spoke key and allen keys are essentials. A decent chain tool too. Can't really go wrong with the Park mark for tools.

EDIT: dang. Note to self: look at the entire thread before posting and type quicker

yes i do have tyre levers

with regard to the cost benefit etc its more of a hobby building bikes etc so something i want to get and thinking now if i get decent ones will last me, although my budget tool kit has done me proud and enabled me to build a whole bike so cant be bad.

always_tyred

Trouser press.
Cake tins.
Hanging baskets.

Deadeye Duck

What is the difference between cone spanners and normal spanners?

andy83

cone spanners are for the hubs and the correct size, i think anyhow :?

Deadeye Duck

I've got sets of both metric and imperial spanners, and so don't really want to end up with doubles if I dont need to. I thought they might be a particular shape or something, but when searching, they just looked like ordinary spanners...

Fireblade96

Cone spanners are thinner than normal spanners so they can fit the slim nuts/locknuts. That's about it !

lost_in_thought

Maybe a workstand of some kind?

Deadeye Duck

Fireblade96 wrote:

Cone spanners are thinner than normal spanners so they can fit the slim nuts/locknuts. That's about it !

Cheers mate. More tools to buy, the missus will be pleased

salsarider79

Cone spanners are indeed for wheels. They are very thin spanners so you can adjust the cones of the wheel easily. If you've seen a proper pedal spanner, you'll know what they look like.

Can I also recommend a headset press and a wheel truing stand too?

If this is going to be your only bike, ignore weather. Use MucOff and COLD water to clean it. It'll be fine....

AndyOgy

On the subject of inner tubes - There was recently a thread on here where somebody provided a link to an online bike shop that was doing quality branded inner tubes on a 'buy one, get two free' offer. eg 3 inner tubes for £4.99.

Can anyone remember which online retailer this was?

Fireblade96

AndyOgy wrote:

On the subject of inner tubes - There was recently a thread on here where somebody provided a link to an online bike shop that was doing quality branded inner tubes on a 'buy one, get two free' offer. eg 3 inner tubes for £4.99.

Can anyone remember which online retailer this was?

Dammit, don't tell me that! I've just ordered a batch of inner tubes from Wiggle : 5 for £14-ish.

Stuey01

I've built several bikes from components using nothing but:
Bike specific:
multitool
cassette tool
tyre levers
hollowtech 2 bb tool

Non bike specific:
adjustable wrench
cable cutters
big hammer

The only thing I couldn't do was fit the headset, I had my LBS do that before I picked up the frame.

My multitool also has a spoke key built in.

You don't need much really.

ziggy.mcd

I started a list of "stuff I'd probably need" shortly after taking up cycling. Although I've made great inroads into ticking items off and my visits to Wiggle and CRC have slowed the list still keeps getting longer.

andy83

lost_in_thought wrote:

Maybe a workstand of some kind?

my list wasnt the best i gave, have one of those aswell lol

Cone spanners are indeed for wheels. They are very thin spanners so you can adjust the cones of the wheel easily. If you've seen a proper pedal spanner, you'll know what they look like.

Can I also recommend a headset press and a wheel truing stand too?

If this is going to be your only bike, ignore weather. Use MucOff and COLD water to clean it. It'll be fine....

was thinking bout wheel truing stand if not just to learn a new skill

with regard to being my only bike yes it is at the moment, however the line " if i save up and get a cheap bike to get to work in the rubbish weather" seemed to get agreement last night so second bike might be on the way

going out on bike tomo and just hope weather aint too bad, at least get to keep it inside which is a positive