FAO Nokia Sports Tracker users

BoardinBob
BoardinBob Posts: 697
edited May 2009 in Commuting chat
If you haven't already got it, there's a pretty nifty software update available. The GPS connection seems quicker and more reliable and the upload to the sports tracker site is much quicker.

Most useful aspect though is the inclusion of maps on the mobile screen. Previously before where you could see your route but all it showed was a blue line on a white background, the white background has been replaced with maps!

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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    BoardinBob wrote:
    If you haven't already got it, there's a pretty nifty software update available. The GPS connection seems quicker and more reliable and the upload to the sports tracker site is much quicker.

    Most useful aspect though is the inclusion of maps on the mobile screen. Previously before where you could see your route but all it showed was a blue line on a white background, the white background has been replaced with maps!
    Good god. They'll be putting some data about the vast spaces between the major roads on it soon.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,061
    BoardinBob wrote:
    If you haven't already got it, there's a pretty nifty software update available. The GPS connection seems quicker and more reliable and the upload to the sports tracker site is much quicker.

    Most useful aspect though is the inclusion of maps on the mobile screen. Previously before where you could see your route but all it showed was a blue line on a white background, the white background has been replaced with maps!

    If you're referring to the v2.06 then be careful there's a bug with the AGPS feature where it continuously makes a data connection every 10 secs or so whilst in use, if you don't have a flat rate data plan you'll be in for a nasty surprise when you get your next bill :shock:

    I reported it to Nokia and as per usual no reply - BARSTEWARDS! good software though :D
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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    Isn't there a way to disable the 3G connection?
  • BoardinBob
    BoardinBob Posts: 697
    itboffin wrote:
    BoardinBob wrote:
    If you haven't already got it, there's a pretty nifty software update available. The GPS connection seems quicker and more reliable and the upload to the sports tracker site is much quicker.

    Most useful aspect though is the inclusion of maps on the mobile screen. Previously before where you could see your route but all it showed was a blue line on a white background, the white background has been replaced with maps!

    If you're referring to the v2.06 then be careful there's a bug with the AGPS feature where it continuously makes a data connection every 10 secs or so whilst in use, if you don't have a flat rate data plan you'll be in for a nasty surprise when you get your next bill :shock:

    I reported it to Nokia and as per usual no reply - BARSTEWARDS! good software though :D

    Interesting. By changing the access point from WAP to say my home wireless connection, it should stop it making the connection every ten seconds!
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,061
    Isn't there a way to disable the 3G connection?

    Yep you can select GSM only connection under settings -> phone -> network or you could disable AGPS settings -> general -> positioning -> p. methods

    or they could test there software before releasing it :evil: and respond when large numbers of users report bugs esp ones that cost the end user money.
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,061
    BoardinBob wrote:
    itboffin wrote:
    BoardinBob wrote:
    If you haven't already got it, there's a pretty nifty software update available. The GPS connection seems quicker and more reliable and the upload to the sports tracker site is much quicker.

    Most useful aspect though is the inclusion of maps on the mobile screen. Previously before where you could see your route but all it showed was a blue line on a white background, the white background has been replaced with maps!

    If you're referring to the v2.06 then be careful there's a bug with the AGPS feature where it continuously makes a data connection every 10 secs or so whilst in use, if you don't have a flat rate data plan you'll be in for a nasty surprise when you get your next bill :shock:

    I reported it to Nokia and as per usual no reply - BARSTEWARDS! good software though :D

    Interesting. By changing the access point from WAP to say my home wireless connection, it should stop it making the connection every ten seconds!

    Nope the bug doesn't use those settings it's for GPS location fixing and uses your phones settings, see my previous post.
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • BoardinBob
    BoardinBob Posts: 697
    itboffin wrote:
    BoardinBob wrote:
    itboffin wrote:
    BoardinBob wrote:
    If you haven't already got it, there's a pretty nifty software update available. The GPS connection seems quicker and more reliable and the upload to the sports tracker site is much quicker.

    Most useful aspect though is the inclusion of maps on the mobile screen. Previously before where you could see your route but all it showed was a blue line on a white background, the white background has been replaced with maps!

    If you're referring to the v2.06 then be careful there's a bug with the AGPS feature where it continuously makes a data connection every 10 secs or so whilst in use, if you don't have a flat rate data plan you'll be in for a nasty surprise when you get your next bill :shock:

    I reported it to Nokia and as per usual no reply - BARSTEWARDS! good software though :D

    Interesting. By changing the access point from WAP to say my home wireless connection, it should stop it making the connection every ten seconds!

    Nope the bug doesn't use those settings it's for GPS location fixing and uses your phones settings, see my previous post.

    Noted and done. I've disabled AGPS in the positioning methods section. Integrated GPS and Network based are still checked. Is this ok?
  • steve-m
    steve-m Posts: 106
    Ah, would the explain the sudden short battery life.
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  • manick0de
    manick0de Posts: 202
    BoardinBob wrote:
    If you haven't already got it, there's a pretty nifty software update available. The GPS connection seems quicker and more reliable and the upload to the sports tracker site is much quicker.

    Most useful aspect though is the inclusion of maps on the mobile screen. Previously before where you could see your route but all it showed was a blue line on a white background, the white background has been replaced with maps!

    Cheers.
  • Bassjunkieuk
    Bassjunkieuk Posts: 4,232
    Got this update a few weeks ago, it's a big improvement with the map and for another hint I've also found it seems to help if you scroll down one screen before tucking the phone away, that way it's not constantly using a data connection to update the map you get on the first screen :-)

    I know I could minimize it but I prefer to just use "Options" > "Lock keypad" as I've had a few times where I've got back from a ride to find the damn thing ain't recorded sh!t
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  • hi i cant find these settings in my 5800 to knock the 3g off but i have a setting for the mapping that says use phone or phone and net . if i pick net will it not keep checking every ten seconds ? cheers
  • cancel my last agps setting now found after another factory reset bloody phone lol just one thing when using it for my incar gps is it better to re-enable agps .

    many thanks mick
  • whyamihere
    whyamihere Posts: 7,708
    Leave AGPS off. To turn off 3G on a 5800, go to Settings, Connection, Network and set Network mode to GSM rather than Dual mode or UTMS.
  • Bassjunkieuk
    Bassjunkieuk Posts: 4,232
    From my experience using ST can really cane the battery, so anything that can reduce usage helps! I turn off 3G as that's not needed and I use an external GPS unit so don't have to rely on the phone's built in one providing some extra power, admittedly I then need to run the bluetooth but that's a lot less power then the GPS!

    I went out for a 2 hour ride a little while ago and didn't even make a dent in the battery meter from a full charge :-) I think it's an excellent app, especially considering it's free and also nicely bridges the gap until I can persuade my wife that I *really* need an Edge 705 :-)
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,061
    My NST routes have been all over the place since I turned of AGPS it could be that or the thick dark cloud cover we've had :evil:

    I'm also still PO that NST online stats balls up during the last upgrade, i've got over 2 years worth of ride data but the graphs only show a couple of random months this year even though you can see all the entries.

    An another thing the site is slow and the user interface lacks good navigation, perhaps this is why Nokia decided not to hire me :lol: their loss :roll:
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    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    I attempted to use this for the first time. I had turned off the 3G as per ITboffins post.

    Anyway, on review it did not start 'recording' until i had already gone about 3 miles from where i started the session, and then it reckons i did 30 miles an hour in Brixton!?

    Not very impressed, or am I doing something wrong.
  • Bassjunkieuk
    Bassjunkieuk Posts: 4,232
    Sewinman wrote:
    I attempted to use this for the first time. I had turned off the 3G as per ITboffins post.

    Anyway, on review it did not start 'recording' until i had already gone about 3 miles from where i started the session, and then it reckons i did 30 miles an hour in Brixton!?

    Not very impressed, or am I doing something wrong.

    The built in GPS can be a bit iffy, if you can find a bluetooth GPS receiver on ebay that will get much better results. I tend to leave my receiver on and searching for about 10 minutes before I leave so it has a fix as soon as the phone connects :-) Also saves battery power as the bluetooth radio isn't as big a drain as the GPS receiver!
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  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    Sewinman wrote:
    I attempted to use this for the first time. I had turned off the 3G as per ITboffins post.

    Anyway, on review it did not start 'recording' until i had already gone about 3 miles from where i started the session, and then it reckons i did 30 miles an hour in Brixton!?

    Not very impressed, or am I doing something wrong.

    The built in GPS can be a bit iffy, if you can find a bluetooth GPS receiver on ebay that will get much better results. I tend to leave my receiver on and searching for about 10 minutes before I leave so it has a fix as soon as the phone connects :-) Also saves battery power as the bluetooth radio isn't as big a drain as the GPS receiver!

    Thanks for the tip.
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    Okay, so I disabled the 3G functionality so that I didn't run up a national debt, and although my phone has UK maps on it, I didn't get any mapping with my sports tracking.

    Accepting that I may be a gadget-duffer....um... help? Any way to get mapping without aforesaid national debt data charges?
  • Bassjunkieuk
    Bassjunkieuk Posts: 4,232
    Okay, so I disabled the 3G functionality so that I didn't run up a national debt, and although my phone has UK maps on it, I didn't get any mapping with my sports tracking.

    Accepting that I may be a gadget-duffer....um... help? Any way to get mapping without aforesaid national debt data charges?

    Unless ITB knows differently I think ST has to stream it's maps, mine always has a little loading and a number that shows the amount loaded when I have the map view on.
    It doesn't appear to have the same functionality as Nokia Maps where you can save the UK map to the memory card which is a shame.
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,061
    It downloads the map the first time you do the route after that it's saved to the phone, gps seem to be generally pants at the moment nothing to do with Nokia, I couldn't get a fix at all this evening.
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    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    I read this morning that GPS may go down completely in the next few year due a lack of investment in satellites.