avid juicy brakes

jwebber86

is there much difference between avid juicy 4 rsl and avid juicy 3 sl
this is the main difference i can see between the rockhopper comp and expert so was wondering if it was worth the £200 price difference

.blitz

Think the 4s are basically OE 3s; they may have a reach adjuster but no way are they worth £200 price difference - have a look at the forks and wheels.

junglist_matty

Specialised Rockhopper Comp Disc:
http://www.rutlandcycling.com/11470/Spe ... Disc-.html

Specialised Rockhopper Expert Disc:
http://www.rutlandcycling.com/11467/Spe ... -Disc.html

Comp:
FRAME Specialized M4 manipulated alloy frame, fully butted, ORE DT, forged dropouts w/ replaceable 98954020 hanger, disc only
FORK RockShox Dart 3 SL, 100mm, alloy steerer, preload and rebound adj. w/ LO, 13/15" standard spring, 17-23 "stiff" spring, disc only
HEADSET Specialized 1-1/8" threadless, loose ball
STEM Specialized 3D forged, 4-bolt, 8 degree rise, , 31.8mm clamp
HANDLEBARS Specialized alloy riser bar, 31.8mm, 25mm rise, 640mm wide, 8 degree back sweep, 8 degree up
GRIPS Specialized Enduro, dual compound Kraton, no flange, 131mm
FRONT BRAKE Tektro Auriga Comp, hydraulic disc, dual piston w/ 160mm rotor
REAR BRAKE Tektro Auriga Comp, hydraulic disc, dual piston w/ 160mm rotor
BRAKE LEVERS Tektro Auriga Comp
FRONT DERAILLEUR Shimano Deore, 34.9mm clamp, bottom swing, dual pull
REAR DERAILLEUR Shimano Deore
SHIFT LEVERS Shimano Deore SL- M530, 9-speed
CASSETTE Shimano HG-50, 9-speed, 11-34t
CHAIN KMC X9 w/ reusable Missing Link
CRANKSET Shimano FCM442, forged alloy arms, Octalink Spline w/ replaceable outer rings
CHAINRINGS 44A x 32S x 22S
BOTTOM BRACKET Shimano BB-ES25, Octalink spline, cartridge bearings, 68mm x 118mm
PEDALS Alloy body and cage, 9/16"
RIMS Specialized RHD 26", double wall disc, pinned, eyelets, 28/32h
FRONT HUB Specialized Hi Lo, forged alloy, double sealed, ground race, 28h
REAR HUB Specialized, forged alloy, double sealed, ground race, cassette, QR, 32h
SPOKES 1.8mm (15g) stainless
FRONT TYRE Specialized Fast Trak Sport, 26x2.0", 60TPI, wire bead
REAR TYRE Specialized Fast Trak Sport, 26x2.0", 60TPI, wire bead
INNER TUBES Specialized Schrader valve
SADDLE Specialized XC, Body Geometry, 143mm width, front and rear bumpers
SEATPOST Specialized alloy two bolt, micro adjust head, 30.9mm
SEAT BINDER Specialized alloy w/ QR, brass washer
NOTES Chain stay protector, reflectors, clear coat, owners manual


Expert:
FRAME Specialized M4 manipulated alloy frame, fully butted, ORE DT, forged dropouts w/ replaceable 98954020 hanger, disc only
FORK RockShox Recon SLite, 100mm, alloy steerer, 32mm alloy stanchions, TurnKey damper, preload and rebound adj. w/ LO, 13-15": standard spring, all others: "stiff" spring, disc only
HEADSET Specialized 1-1/8" threadless, loose ball
STEM Specialized 3D forged, 4-bolt, 7 degree rise, 31.8mm clamp
HANDLEBARS Specialized butted alloy, 31.8mm, XC rise, 640mm wide, 8 degree back sweep, 8 degree up, 2.6mm thick
GRIPS Specialized Enduro, dual compound Kraton, no flange, 131mm
FRONT BRAKE Avid Juicy 4 RSL, hydraulic disc, alloy backed brake pads, organic compound, tool-less reach adj., 160mm G2 Clean Sweep rotor
REAR BRAKE Avid Juicy 4 RSL, hydraulic disc, alloy backed brake pads, organic compound, tool-less reach adj., 160mm G2 Clean Sweep rotor
BRAKE LEVERS Avid Juicy 4 RSL
FRONT DERAILLEUR Shimano Deore, 34.9mm clamp, bottom swing, dual pull
REAR DERAILLEUR Shimano Deore XT Shadow
SHIFT LEVERS Shimano Deore SL- M530, 9-speed
CASSETTE Shimano HG-50, 9-speed, 11-34t
CHAIN KMC X9 w/ reusable Missing Link
CRANKSET Shimano FC-M521, Hollowtech arms, Octalink spline w/ replaceable outer rings
CHAINRINGS 44A x 32S x 22S
BOTTOM BRACKET Shimano BB-ES25, Octalink spline, cartridge bearings, 68mm x 118mm
PEDALS Shimano 505 SPD clip less, 9/16"
RIMS DT-Swiss 445D, 26", double wall disc, pin joint, eyelets, 28/32h
FRONT HUB Specialized Hi Lo, forged alloy, double sealed, ground race, 28h
REAR HUB Specialized, forged alloy, double sealed, ground race, cassette, QR, 32h
SPOKES 1.8mm (15g) stainless
FRONT TYRE Specialized Fast Trak LK Control, 26x2.0", 60TPI, aramid bead, 2Bliss ready
REAR TYRE Specialized Fast Trak LK Control, 26x2.0", 60TPI, aramid bead, 2Bliss ready
INNER TUBES Specialized Schrader valve
SADDLE Specialized Indie XC, Body Geometry, 143mm width, front and rear bumpers
SEATPOST Specialized butted alloy, two bolt micro adjust head, 30.9mm
SEAT BINDER Specialized alloy w/ QR, brass washer
NOTES Chain stay protector, reflectors, clear coat, owners manual


...Quite a few differences other than the brakes!

dav1

the expert has a better fork as the other major difference. It also appears to have better wheels, cranks and finishing kit and a better rear mech. (just from a quick look over the lists)