Speedplay x5 or zero?

markw99
markw99 Posts: 33
edited May 2009 in Road buying advice
Hi, I'm looking for some road clipless pedals and like the sound of Speedplay with it's double sided entry (I've got XTR's on my mountain bike so used that). Just wondering what the differences are between the X5 and the zero? They seem to be the same price. Cheers

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  • FOAD
    FOAD Posts: 318
    http://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuse ... ompareroad

    The Zero's have 15 degrees of float and can be adjusted down to zero (you can stop float inwards and outwards).

    The X5's have 20+ degrees of float that cannot be adjusted.

    The only other main difference it would appear is a few grams in weight, one colour only for the X5's and different bearings.

    I have Zeros and couldn't see a valid reason for buying any of the other Speedplay road pedals when the Zeros are the same price.

    The cleats need lubing regularly with something like GT85 (I have found the more you do it the easier entry is), and it's worth getting the coffee cups to walk around in as they stop the cleats wearing, and also stop crap getting into them (a few stories of the springs locking with grit in them).
  • markw99
    markw99 Posts: 33
    Great, thanks for that. I'll get the Zeros then with the adjustable float, and those covers seems a sensible choice too. They seem to be about £90, although have found some white ones at £83.50. Anyone know of a better deal?
  • FOAD
    FOAD Posts: 318
    £79 from Merlin last time I looked mate. Best I could find at the time but got mine thrown in at cost with my bike. I cannot recommend the coffee cups enough either, if only for walking over my wooden floors at home and catching a bit of residual lube after I spray the cleats.
  • markw99
    markw99 Posts: 33
    Thanks, just looked at their site (merlincycles.co.uk) if that's the one? and seems they don't stock them now. Found them for 79.99 at the tristore and that seems about the best I can find. I guess you pop the coffee cups in your jersey pocket when riding?
  • FOAD
    FOAD Posts: 318
    Absolutely, and when you stop you can after a bit of practice just drop them on the floor and stand on them and they clip around the cleat.

    My LBS told me not to bother with the coffee cups as they were easy enough to walk on anyway and the cleats were metal so would last way longer than Look or SPD-SL etc, but like I say they are grear for a bit of extra grip, the metal doesn't get scored, dirt and stones stay out, you can walk on wood etc. without worry and they catch lube drops for ours after lubing the cleats if you are over generous it.
  • crankycrank
    crankycrank Posts: 1,830
    FOAD wrote:
    My LBS told me not to bother with the coffee cups as they were easy enough to walk on anyway and the cleats were metal so would last way longer than Look or SPD-SL etc, but like I say they are grear for a bit of extra grip, the metal doesn't get scored, dirt and stones stay out, you can walk on wood etc. without worry and they catch lube drops for ours after lubing the cleats if you are over generous it.

    Speedplay cleats are slippery as ice when walking without the coffee shop covers. I've had some near disasters walking around on some smooth floors on bare cleats. They can also leave indentations in soft wood and linoleum type floors which friends and business proprieters don't appreciate too much.
  • FOAD
    FOAD Posts: 318
    Tbh I find mine ok to walk in, but that is probably down to the rear pad on my SIDI's being as grippy as a grippy thing.

    As for denting the floor, absolutely right!
  • don key
    don key Posts: 494
    FOAD wrote:
    Absolutely, and when you stop you can after a bit of practice just drop them on the floor and stand on them and they clip around the cleat.

    My LBS told me not to bother with the coffee cups as they were easy enough to walk on anyway and the cleats were metal so would last way longer than Look or SPD-SL etc, but like I say they are grear for a bit of extra grip, the metal doesn't get scored, dirt and stones stay out, you can walk on wood etc. without worry and they catch lube drops for ours after lubing the cleats if you are over generous it.

    Not tpo bother with the coffee cups, so you'll be back for another set in 2 months.
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,473
    You really need the the "coffee cups" ( :lol: ). If you're just walking on clean tarmac they aren't necessary but as soon as you are on some hard smooth surface (e.g. concrete stairs) you will be skidding all over the place without them. Also for any non-carpeted indoor surfaces you need them to prevent damage, and... always put them on if there is any dirt or grit around, I had a nasty experience recently with being unable to unclip because some grit had got behind one of the cleat springs (although most likely is you just won't be able to clip in if there is dirt in them).
  • NWLondoner
    NWLondoner Posts: 2,047
    I will definitely need the coffee cups. I have to carry my bike down 29 slippery concrete stairs from my flat. Almost gone a*se over tit on several occasions with my MTB shoes :oops: God help me with road shoes :shock: