Rim reccomendations for vintage build

joe1983
joe1983 Posts: 440
edited April 2009 in Road general
Doing a 1970s build, got a full campag groupset from the early 70s in good nick but the wheels have tubular rims. Im planning on salvaging the record hubs and lacing them to some new or nos rims. What would you suggest (27 inch) for good performance that will also look good?

Found a guy that is selling Campagnolo MEXICO 68 V's, are these any good?

Cheers,

Joe

Comments

  • meagain
    meagain Posts: 2,331
    ARE "Campagnolo MEXICO 68 V's" 27"ers? Seems unlikely.

    Not much choice around in that size - unless very good reasons to the contrary surely might as well go with 700s?
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  • joe1983
    joe1983 Posts: 440
    Thats a point - I didn't check if they were 27's.

    I would rather use 27s as that was what the frame was designed for, I don't think it would look right with 700s, plus might i not have an issue with the brake reach?
  • Streak
    Streak Posts: 163
    Joe, what make are the sprint rims, and are they any good? Looking for a pair to build into maillard hubs for my Flying Scot track bike, oh BTW I need 36/36 spoking.


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  • joe1983
    joe1983 Posts: 440
    Hi streak, they are AVA rims 36 hole. They are in great condition - the whole bike was immaculate
  • Streak
    Streak Posts: 163
    Hi Joe, Thanks for the reply. How much would you want for them? I live in Scotland but will be going down to Cardiff a week tomorrow and coming back up the following Monday, so I could pick them up from you.

    Cheers, Streak
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  • joe1983
    joe1983 Posts: 440
    Hi Streak, no idea on price! Not looking to make any money - just hope to get enough to buy similar clinchers

    Edit: or most of the way to some clinchers!

    Pick up is no problem by the way
  • Streak
    Streak Posts: 163
    Joe, I reckon about the cost of one of these?
    http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Pana ... h-(32--630)-1066.htm

    Streak
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  • joe1983
    joe1983 Posts: 440
    Hi again, I'm after clincher rims not tyres so not sure if I would be able to get a pair for £20. Let me check what I am going to have to pay and I'll let you know if I'm definitely going to go to clinchers, in which case you can have them for that.

    Cheers,

    Joe
  • meagain
    meagain Posts: 2,331
    "I would rather use 27s as that was what the frame was designed for, I don't think it would look right with 700s, plus might i not have an issue with the brake reach?"

    In general I would agree about the "look", BUT it rather depends on how generous the clearances were with 27s - if tight, then 700s tend IMO/E to be aesthetically OK. Also, if you will be running with 'grds they'll easily fill the vacant 4mm!

    Brake reach is easily overcome unless originally built with huge clearance even for 27s.
    d.j.
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  • fnb1
    fnb1 Posts: 591
    Streak,


    I think I have a set of Campag Record Large Flange with Mavic CX18 rims in the loft, which believe it or not are from my 1983 Flying Scot track bike (one of the very last built at Alexandra Parade). If you want to go orginal I probably also still have the orginal toeclip/strap pedals too, 2 sets, a black anodised Miche set and a Zeus Pista Set in silver.

    What age is your Scot?
    fay ce que voudres
  • Streak
    Streak Posts: 163
    Hi fnb1,

    Mine is earlier, 1971, you can see it here:

    http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006/july/GarethPatten.htm

    I have given up trying to be too original, it costs too much!

    Are the wheels sprints? and how much are you looking for them?

    I would probably rebuild them as I have only ever built one set (on the SCOT) and would like to do another set.

    Cheers, Streak
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  • mattsccm
    mattsccm Posts: 409
    Maybe some one will shoot me down here but are you sure what you are after. If its running 27" tubs it will be rare and therefore may be worth saving. Tubs for years were 700c thus what the bike was built for. Brits were using 700c tubs alongside 27" Hp wheels thogh the 70's. Maybe you do have 27" tubs but if so leave the wheels alone and get a set of 700c ones of Ebay. Traditional bike may have stock of old screw on hub, wheels,. Thats where I get mine just for cheap tubs. I may even have a pair if decent 700c sprints kicking about for not a lot.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,052
    I run 27s on two of my old bikes mainly for brake reach but partly to be authentic the trouble is although you can use pretty much any hubs you like finding good quality rims is impossible, at best you end up running on cheap O rims that frankly don't look that good.

    Likewise running old brakes is not a good idea, they look good but lack the stopping power of their modern equivalents, a few recent scary moments has convinced me to upgrade my wheels & brakes.
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  • meagain
    meagain Posts: 2,331
    Second up for shooting down! ARE there such things as "27"" tubs? Are they not all technically 700c? I've never come across true 27" sprint rims - they may exist but are surely very, very, rare?
    d.j.
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,052
    And.....

    Those cheap wheels are a bugger to keep clean, I just replace them :wink:

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    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    I saw a beautiful Tomassini on another forum with vintage looking wheels and it turned out they were debadged Open Pros....

    They looked perfect.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    In fact - here is a pic of said bike and wheels!

    bike-side.jpg
  • Chaz.Harding
    Chaz.Harding Posts: 3,144
    Get some wooden rims!

    Ghisallo wooden rims for an old-school bicycle. Pricey, but man these babies wood look sweet on the right bike!

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  • Streak
    Streak Posts: 163
    Bigchaz,

    Wow I haven't seen wooden rims for many a year! I remember a chap using them on a road fixed for a club run, he didn't realise that you shouldn't use brakes on them!

    Your right they are really tempting for a 50's period build, although mine is a bit young I still fancy them. Any idea of prices for the pista sprint rims?

    Streak
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