11 speed chorus vs 11 speed record

blongers
blongers Posts: 19
edited April 2009 in Road buying advice
just ordered a new frame and i now have to select what i am going to put on it.

with the difference between chorus and record being approx £350... apart from the 'bling' factor, is the difference in money worth it??

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  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Unless you can stretch to the Super Record and the ceramic bearings, apart from a few titanium fasteners, there's very little difference between the two apart from the finish on some components.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • mrushton
    mrushton Posts: 5,182
    Why not just use 10 speed and save some money?
    M.Rushton
  • Tempestas
    Tempestas Posts: 486
    Is Chorus 11 out yet? I thought it was just Super Record and Record at the moment?
  • terongi
    terongi Posts: 318
    All of them are available now.

    There are ceramic bearings on the Record stuff, but the Super Record has higher spec ceramic bearings.

    I have a mixture of 11 speed chorus and record on my new mount. Record for levers, derailleurs and crankset - chorus for everything else. Rides very nicely.
  • blongers
    blongers Posts: 19
    mrushton wrote:
    Why not just use 10 speed and save some money?

    they are only making 11 speed chorus and record now and although i would be happy with 10 speed i am struggling to find one and surely replacement parts will be a problem sometime soon?
  • mrushton
    mrushton Posts: 5,182
    blongers wrote:
    mrushton wrote:
    Why not just use 10 speed and save some money?

    they are only making 11 speed chorus and record now and although i would be happy with 10 speed i am struggling to find one and surely replacement parts will be a problem sometime soon?

    I presume it's only 10 speed Centaur then. Parts will be available for years and a lot of the time the basic components are the same, just the fancy bits get tweaked. It was possible to convert the 8 speed levers to 9 or 10 speed with a couple of parts and some patience.
    M.Rushton
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    FWIW the internals for the new Ergos are completely different, so no upgrade to 11 speed possible using old shape levers I'm afraid.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • chipperleenie
    chipperleenie Posts: 217
    I have always used Chorus on my best biikes purely on a cost basis. It always seems a big gap to Record in price but little gain from performance or weight. Unless youre a pro or loaded then Chorus is the way to go.
    Go below Chorus and I think you suffer from weight and the finish quality as I have found from training bikes with Veloce or others.

    Try sub7bikes.co.uk they often have good deals on groupsets.
  • blongers
    blongers Posts: 19
    i was looking at this again.. and david hinde as the 11 speed chorus in at £850 and the record is £1200..
    taking into account the comments on here....i reckon i should buy the chorus groupset but upgrade the brake calipers to record for about £40 extra (i want the black calipers)... is this feasable?
  • fast as fupp
    fast as fupp Posts: 2,277
    blongers wrote:
    i was looking at this again.. and david hinde as the 11 speed chorus in at £850 and the record is £1200..
    taking into account the comments on here....i reckon i should buy the chorus groupset but upgrade the brake calipers to record for about £40 extra (i want the black calipers)... is this feasable?

    id think twice about buying your groupset from dave hinde! :shock:
    'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'
  • Beatmaker
    Beatmaker Posts: 1,092
    Campag are rereleasing the Athena groupset, it will sit below Chorus and above Centaur and will be the entry level 11 speed groupset which should make it more affordable to the masses.

    RE converting 10 speed shifters to 11 speed, someone has done it (in Italy IIRC) and was contemplating starting production of the kit. I can't remember which site I saw it on though.
  • blongers
    blongers Posts: 19
    fast as fupp wrote:
    blongers wrote:
    i was looking at this again.. and david hinde as the 11 speed chorus in at £850 and the record is £1200..
    taking into account the comments on here....i reckon i should buy the chorus groupset but upgrade the brake calipers to record for about £40 extra (i want the black calipers)... is this feasable?

    id think twice about buying your groupset from dave hinde! :shock:

    why?
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Dave Hinde? - search for previous posts. Also try Maestro for decent groupset prices, without the aggro.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • chipperleenie
    chipperleenie Posts: 217
    Dave Hinde?

    I have heard rumours of them selling OEM kit - i.e its the same thing just doesn't come in the boxes - and I have bought lots of stuf off them via ebay they trade as number one bike kits.
    I have also been to their shop a couple of times - its very small, but they do know what they are on about. I doubt if the muppets at Wiggle or CRC would know the difference in length between a 1995 chorus bottom bracket and a standard one. Or would they???

    Dave Hindes is a proper racing bike shop for proper cyclists. Unlike the newer online ones for whom it is purely business and not an interest.
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Chipper - anyone that comes on here spouting about the merits of a certain shop has either associations with said shop or the luckiest trader on ebay.
    Blongers - There are countless posts on the subject - if you don't want to be scammed or suffer countless abuse, there are plenty of other shops out there prepared to take your business without the aggro.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • on-yer-bike
    on-yer-bike Posts: 2,974
    Beatmaker wrote:
    Campag are rereleasing the Athena groupset, it will sit below Chorus and above Centaur and will be the entry level 11 speed groupset which should make it more affordable to the masses.

    Where did you hear this? When will it happen?
    Pegoretti
    Colnago
    Cervelo
    Campagnolo
  • chipperleenie
    chipperleenie Posts: 217
    Monty - I have no connection with Dave Hinde - have just used them a few times and visited the shop 2 or 3 thats all. I live about 150 miles away from the place! :shock:

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