Why must others annoy me on my commute.

Eau Rouge

ChrisInBicester wrote:

Being a fairweather anything is to be seen as a lesser proponent of whatever activity is under discussion,

Wobbling about the place, being inconsiderate, not know or caring about the rules of the road etc etc, basically all the stuff directed at the "fairweather cyclists" in this thread would seem to define them as lesser proponents, wouldn't you say?
Nothing to do with how sunny it is.

roger_merriman

i very much dought that many people wouldn't understand that "fairweather commuter" was a mild dig at some one, as to if that means they are more likely to jump lights, have no clue etc well thats a another issue all together,

while you do get a fair few new shiny and a bit wobbly, quite a lot of the all weather brigade get too caviler with risks.

there is some idea that there is bit of mostly minor accidents with the massive increase london has had with cyclists, as to any proof in that dunno.

nation

JonGinge wrote:

POB=Person on Bike. POB is someone with little or no skill, unaware of those around them and disregards the rules of the road. As soon as there are a few sunny days in spring there are a lot more POBs about on the roads. Some of these are beginners (but even as a beginner I had some road sense) and get better with experience, some just don't give a toss...

I always thought POB was "Pedestrian on Bike". That is, someone who's riding a bike but still thinking and acting like a pedestrian instead of a vehicle.

Jay dubbleU

Inexperience does not equal numptyism - some people choose to ride in good weather because they are inexperienced and don't feel confident in poor conditions - hopefully their skills will improve with experience but a numty is always a numpty

DonDaddyD

Eau Rouge wrote:

ChrisInBicester wrote:

Being a fairweather anything is to be seen as a lesser proponent of whatever activity is under discussion,

Wobbling about the place, being inconsiderate, not know or caring about the rules of the road etc etc, basically all the stuff directed at the "fairweather cyclists" in this thread would seem to define them as lesser proponents, wouldn't you say?
Nothing to do with how sunny it is.

I really am going to say this for the last time... in fact no, I'm going to start quoting stuff I've written previously:

Posted by Me

A fairweather commuter in my opinion (and if I cannot use my own opinion then whose can I use?) is a person who only rides a bike when its sunny. This does not indicate or have any relevance on the amount of experience or skill they have as a cyclist.

However, in my experience its the fairweather commuters I encounter that tend to be more of a risk to me, others and themselves than a cyclists who has clearly ridden throughout the year. Albeit it is an assumption to claim that said person I am complaining about is a fairweather commuter. They in actual fact could have ridden throughout the winter. Alas, the human mind identifies through generalisations, and thus I dub them fairweather commuters.

Every time I call a person a fair weather cyclist who has done something to piss me :roll: off I could call them a pr!ck on a bike. Would that be more PC for everyone?

Clever Pun

[quote="DonDaddyD"
Posted by Me

A fairweather commuter in my opinion (and if I cannot use my own opinion then whose can I use?) is a person who only rides a bike when its sunny. This does not indicate or have any relevance on the amount of experience or skill they have as a cyclist.

However, in my experience its the fairweather commuters I encounter that tend to be more of a risk to me, others and themselves than a cyclists who has clearly ridden throughout the year. Albeit it is an assumption to claim that said person I am complaining about is a fairweather commuter. They in actual fact could have ridden throughout the winter. Alas, the human mind identifies through generalisations, and thus I dub them fairweather commuters. [/quote]

Every time I call a person a fair weather cyclist who has done something to wee-wee me :roll: off I could call them a pr!ck on a bike. Would that be more PC for everyone?[/quote]

Doesn't that indicate a lack of aweness/skill?.. if say Gregg66 came past you and the sonic boom blew you off your bike you're be pi$$ed off would he be fairweather? or just a very pushy roadie who just happens to be a tw@t? wouldn't make him fairweather just someone you'd see next tuesday

Kieran_Burns

Well you could call them a POB.

then WE would think you meant Pedestrian On a Bike, and you would KNOW you meant Pr!ck On a Bike

DonDaddyD

Clever Pun wrote:

Doesn't that indicate a lack of aweness/skill?.. if say Gregg66 came past you and the sonic boom blew you off your bike you're be pi$$ed off would he be fairweather? or just a very pushy roadie who just happens to be a tw@t? wouldn't make him fairweather just someone you'd see next tuesday

No it doesn't indicate a lack of skill. It indicates that some people categorised as a type of cyclists (I have the same problem with Fakengers) more often than not pose a threat to the safety of my commute. This doesn't mean that all people from that group are a problem.

What there isn't is a parallel between good fairweather riders and crap ones. Good roadies and bad roadies.

Yesterday's journey home, a girl on a bright and shinny Giant FCR. She was a fairweather and upon asking her if her bike was new she confirmed this "I love it was her response" (I'm sure you do I smirked) . She pretty much raced me, even overtook me at one point, all the way from Clapham to Tooting. At no point, even the moment when I had to stop sharply, was she an issue in terms of safety. Her attitude on the bike, despite the ability to ride DDD fast, was sound and I would have no problem with my safety around her on a bike.