Cutting your carbon tubes this weekend?

spongtastic

then I'd think twice as the HSE have just issued this guidance with regards to CNT's.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/web38.pdf

Enjoy!

:shock:

chriskempton

Are all carbon components made from 'carbon nano tubes' or is it just expensive Easton ones?

ride_whenever

I really wouldn't worry too much, just wear a mask and cut it outside.

.blitz

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spongtastic wrote:

...the HSE...

These buggers will be the first against the wall come the revolution. CF dust has always been carcinogenic but as said above, use a fine hacksaw blade and don't inhale the dust.

stevieboy

.blitz wrote:

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spongtastic wrote:

...the HSE...

These buggers will be the first against the wall come the revolution. CF dust has always been carcinogenic but as said above, use a fine hacksaw blade and don't inhale the dust.

Closely followed by No Win No Fee 'lawyers'

Infact, lets make No Win No Fee 'lawyers' cut our carbon components without dust protection!

spongtastic

First against the wall?

Yes lets go back to people having no toilets at work, mass legionella outbreaks, thousands dying from asbestos related diseases, 2000 people dying on building sites etc. Much of the problems associated with the HSE are due to poorly trained staff over reacting to the guidance and making stupid rules as a result, but that's an argument for another time. For me generally at work.

If they do find out CNT is as bad as asbestos cutting it outside and wearing a mask won't really have helped.

topsey_turvey

Remember when you go out on your bike to be wearing full body armour, covering every inch of you body. 14" of protection on your head as a minimum, and the whole lot wrapped in 3.3782 metres depth of protective absorbent impact preventative material.

Make sure that you never have your mouth open.This will prevent the accidental ingestion of one of those flies carrying every fatal disease known to man (and some that haven't yet been discovered). Breathe only pure filtered air from a Government approved supplier, towed behind you on a carbon neutral trolley, manufactured in a fair trade country.

The trail centre that you go to - it will have to be a trail centre because you can get lost and die if you don't have little blue arrows to follow every 100 yards, sorry 98.2 metres - will have to be accessible on foot, no more than 3 minutes walk from your front door.

It's a big bad world out there, and there are so many possibilities for DEATH that the average man, sorry person, will be hard put to carry out any activity at all that is not hazardous.

Best bet would be to stay under the duvet all day, and hope that an asteroid doesn't fall through the roof.

Mancunianfightingcat

Topsey Turvey wrote:

Best bet would be to stay under the duvet all day, and hope that an asteroid doesn't fall through the roof.

I have feather duvet, is it safe? Also, the upper most surface of my bed is approximately 3 feet vertically up from the hard wooden floor, how many steps should I have built to enable me to safely climb in to bed, and should I use a climbing harness and a buddy in a high visibility jacket to perform this dangerous manoeuvre?

robmanic1

Hands-up who thinks spongtastic works for the HSE?

topsey_turvey

should I use a climbing harness and a buddy in a high visibility jacket to perform this dangerous manoeuvre?

I once tried using a climbing harness and a high visibilty jacket in bed, but Mrs Turvey called the men in white coats :oops:

.blitz

spongtastic wrote:

Yes lets go back to people having no toilets at work, mass legionella outbreaks, thousands dying from asbestos related diseases, 2000 people dying on building sites etc.

If only the HSE would concentrate on real issues such as these, instead of impinging on the lives of ordinary people with their over-zealous guidelines and restrictions that somehow become 'law'.

Mancunianfightingcat

.blitz wrote:

spongtastic wrote:

Yes lets go back to people having no toilets at work, mass legionella outbreaks, thousands dying from asbestos related diseases, 2000 people dying on building sites etc.

If only the HSE would concentrate on real issues such as these, instead of impinging on the lives of ordinary people with their over-zealous guidelines and restrictions that somehow become 'law'.

That's a bit harsh, can't you see the benefits in using 2 men and scaffolding to change a single light bulb?

topsey_turvey

Ah, but is it safe to put the scaffolding up?

robmanic1

Mancunianfightingcat wrote:

That's a bit harsh, can't you see the benefits in using 2 men and scaffolding to change a single light bulb?

I always wondered what the answer was to that one!

Dirtydog11

Anyone remember asbestos and the damage it did and thousand it killed?

Well CNT has a very similar structure.

As I understand it, Its not the carbon thats the problem its the CNT.

topsey_turvey

Anyone remember that there are three types of asbestos, and only one is dangerous? Anyone remember the panic brought about by HSE and their sacremongering friends who have now classified ALL asbestos as a risk, even though it is accepted that two of the three types do not pose any threat?


Spongtatsic has gone very quiet. Looking up the manual on how to create panic then walk away saying "It's the rules"?

spongtastic

No I don't work for the HSE, but preferring to keep people safe sensibly (and yes my staff do use ladders on their own, have not had training on how to use a kettle or a toaster) and having seen the results first hand of limited exposure to asbestos and an idiot scaffolder falling 10 storeys onto a skip filled with glass and metal window frames I'm a bit touchy about H&S.

So appologies to all, this is one area where I tend to lose my sense of humour

I'm off to a meeting on my ducati.

Tank-slapper

Thank you Spongy - I for one am glad of the information. If the others want to carry on and get cell clusters in their lungs, they can help themselves.

Mancunianfightingcat

don't forget your helmet (and stabilizers)

Mancunianfightingcat

Panic over guys,

apparently it's only specific lengths of the stuff, I think my Monkey Bar is 680mm so hopefully I'll be OK!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7408705.stm

robmanic1

Mancunianfightingcat wrote:

don't forget your helmet (and stabilizers)

....+too-tight leathers (MLC)!

Dirtydog11

The way I see it is, you either take the advice or ignore it.

But I would rather err on the side of caution than bury my head in the sand and ignore the possible health risks associated with it.

Where talking about a potentially life threatening ilness not some minor regulation on a building site.

When something has the potential to cause a life threatening illness then I for one would like to know about it. I wouldn't mind betting that the family's of those who died from asbestos poisoning would have liked to of known of the potential dangers associated with that , although that doesn't seem to be the general consensus on the board.

I'm quite surprised at the narrow mindedness of some of the members.

We all know the HSE can sometimes appear a bit anal but they also have an important job to do.

Before anyone asks,no I don't work for the HSE.

Mancunianfightingcat

We're only having a bit of fun, lighten up!

Have you read the full report from the BBC news site?

Dirtydog11

We're only having a bit of fun, lighten up!

Have you read the full report from the BBC news site?

Yes Mr Cat I have.

I understand that there is no hard evidence and that where talking about something which at this stage of the investigation is only potentially harmful and It could turn out to be a false alarm. Nevertheless it pays to err on the side of caution.

Anyway, I'm off to experiment on some mice.

Mancunianfightingcat

Joking aside, if you worried about every potentialy harmful thing in this life, you'd never leave the house, and even then you wouldn't be safe. If I'm going to die, I'm going to die, but at least I'll enjoy myself before I do!
I know many people won't agree with this philosophy, but it's mine and I'm sticking with it.

Dirtydog11

Yeah, I have agree to a certain point and I do know where coming from. If weren't to take risks in this life where would we be. We certainly wouldn't be riding mountain bikes.

topsey_turvey

Joking aside, if you worried about every potentialy harmful thing in this life, you'd never leave the house, and even then you wouldn't be safe. If I'm going to die, I'm going to die, but at least I'll enjoy myself before I do!
I know many people won't agree with this philosophy, but it's mine and I'm sticking with it.

Seconded.

Tank-slapper

Doing things that are dangerous but fun is one thing. Doing things that are dangerous and not fun is stupid.