Shimano/Campag equivalent?

DonDaddyD
DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
edited March 2009 in Commuting chat
I cannot help feel that Shimano increased the cost of their products to be comparative to the new premium Campag set with Super Record.

What I want to know is if the quality is like for like at each price point. So is Tiagra actually comparable to Veloce in terms of quality? Or is Veloce more 105 level in terms of quality despite the Shimano pricing.

If not what is the Shimano equivalent of the Campag groupsets.

What I’m interested in is the comparative quality between the brands.

So if I buy Centaur what would the Shimano equivalent be?
(I’ve repeated this question several times because I’m seriously trying to avoid any Campag vs Shimano preference discussion. As this question has a purpose).

Dura Ace 7900 / Super record £1500

Dura Ace / Record £1000

Ultegra / Chorus - £700

105 / Centaur - £500

Tiagra / Veloce - £300
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  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    Xenon (defunct) = Sora
    Mirage (defunct) = Tiagra
    Veloce = 105
    Centaur = Ultegra
    Chorus = somewhere between Ultegra and Dura Ace
    Record = Dura Ace or above
    Super Record = a class above

    Shimano stuff is suddenly overpriced because of the exchange rate with the Japanese yen, don't be fooled that their stuff is better than it is. Campagnolo equipped bikes are now relative bargains which is great.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    105 - Veloce
    Ultegra - Centaur
    Dura Ace 7800 - Chorus
    Dura Ace 7900 - Record
    Super Record is unmatched.....
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  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    All you super record people have tried it, yes?
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,062
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I cannot help feel that Shimano increased the cost of their products to be comparative to the new premium Campag set with Super Record.

    What I want to know is if the quality is like for like at each price point. So is Tiagra actually comparable to Veloce in terms of quality? Or is Veloce more 105 level in terms of quality despite the Shimano pricing.

    If not what is the Shimano equivalent of the Campag groupsets.

    What I’m interested in is the comparative quality between the brands.

    So if I buy Centaur what would the Shimano equivalent be?
    (I’ve repeated this question several times because I’m seriously trying to avoid any Campag vs Shimano preference discussion. As this question has a purpose).

    Dura Ace 7900 / Super record £1500

    Dura Ace / Record £1000

    Ultegra / Chorus - £700

    105 / Centaur - £500

    Tiagra / Veloce - £300

    DDD you can still get Mirage groupsets for <£300 it's a great piece of kit and a good upgrade path regardless.

    DO IT!

    Oh and don't use that same LBS they hacked your BB cups.

    I'm still surprised that you can't down shift from the drops with sora or tiagra :shock:
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,062
    edited March 2009
    I might add that you can keep your Ultegra BB & crankset as well as your Fulcrum wheels.

    £219 from here http://www.apollocyclesport.co.uk/index ... oduct&p=67
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    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • boy on bike
    boy on bike Posts: 139
    I would certainly believe the lower-down classifications anyway. And there are also things to take into account such as Cycling Plus' review of the new Chorus as "the best groupset ever tested" (which presumably included Dura-Ace, then :wink: ). I'm sure as with all things there is a law of diminishing returns as you get to the heady heights of Super Record.