Shimano/Campag equivalent?
DonDaddyD
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I cannot help feel that Shimano increased the cost of their products to be comparative to the new premium Campag set with Super Record.
What I want to know is if the quality is like for like at each price point. So is Tiagra actually comparable to Veloce in terms of quality? Or is Veloce more 105 level in terms of quality despite the Shimano pricing.
If not what is the Shimano equivalent of the Campag groupsets.
What I’m interested in is the comparative quality between the brands.
So if I buy Centaur what would the Shimano equivalent be?
(I’ve repeated this question several times because I’m seriously trying to avoid any Campag vs Shimano preference discussion. As this question has a purpose).
Dura Ace 7900 / Super record £1500
Dura Ace / Record £1000
Ultegra / Chorus - £700
105 / Centaur - £500
Tiagra / Veloce - £300
What I want to know is if the quality is like for like at each price point. So is Tiagra actually comparable to Veloce in terms of quality? Or is Veloce more 105 level in terms of quality despite the Shimano pricing.
If not what is the Shimano equivalent of the Campag groupsets.
What I’m interested in is the comparative quality between the brands.
So if I buy Centaur what would the Shimano equivalent be?
(I’ve repeated this question several times because I’m seriously trying to avoid any Campag vs Shimano preference discussion. As this question has a purpose).
Dura Ace 7900 / Super record £1500
Dura Ace / Record £1000
Ultegra / Chorus - £700
105 / Centaur - £500
Tiagra / Veloce - £300
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Xenon (defunct) = Sora
Mirage (defunct) = Tiagra
Veloce = 105
Centaur = Ultegra
Chorus = somewhere between Ultegra and Dura Ace
Record = Dura Ace or above
Super Record = a class above
Shimano stuff is suddenly overpriced because of the exchange rate with the Japanese yen, don't be fooled that their stuff is better than it is. Campagnolo equipped bikes are now relative bargains which is great.0 -
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DonDaddyD wrote:I cannot help feel that Shimano increased the cost of their products to be comparative to the new premium Campag set with Super Record.
What I want to know is if the quality is like for like at each price point. So is Tiagra actually comparable to Veloce in terms of quality? Or is Veloce more 105 level in terms of quality despite the Shimano pricing.
If not what is the Shimano equivalent of the Campag groupsets.
What I’m interested in is the comparative quality between the brands.
So if I buy Centaur what would the Shimano equivalent be?
(I’ve repeated this question several times because I’m seriously trying to avoid any Campag vs Shimano preference discussion. As this question has a purpose).
Dura Ace 7900 / Super record £1500
Dura Ace / Record £1000
Ultegra / Chorus - £700
105 / Centaur - £500
Tiagra / Veloce - £300
DDD you can still get Mirage groupsets for <£300 it's a great piece of kit and a good upgrade path regardless.
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Oh and don't use that same LBS they hacked your BB cups.
I'm still surprised that you can't down shift from the drops with sora or tiagra :shock:Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
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Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
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I might add that you can keep your Ultegra BB & crankset as well as your Fulcrum wheels.
£219 from here http://www.apollocyclesport.co.uk/index ... oduct&p=67Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.0 -
I would certainly believe the lower-down classifications anyway. And there are also things to take into account such as Cycling Plus' review of the new Chorus as "the best groupset ever tested" (which presumably included Dura-Ace, then
). I'm sure as with all things there is a law of diminishing returns as you get to the heady heights of Super Record. 0
