Super Strong Training Wheels!!!
steve23
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the final straw this week..........ive bust two back wheels, thats takes me to 5 in the last 12 months!!!
3 Mavic Askiums (broken spokes), 1 Mavic Kysruim SL (cracked rim) and 1 planet X model B (broken spoke).
All have happened when ive been sprinting during training!
now i need two good rear wheels for my winter bike and summer bike to train on, as im all out, and am fed up of the sh1t mavic are churning out!!!
ive seen the planet X model C wheels, which have 32 spokes, would these be any better do people think?
i cant afford a mega set to train on!
cheers
3 Mavic Askiums (broken spokes), 1 Mavic Kysruim SL (cracked rim) and 1 planet X model B (broken spoke).
All have happened when ive been sprinting during training!
now i need two good rear wheels for my winter bike and summer bike to train on, as im all out, and am fed up of the sh1t mavic are churning out!!!
ive seen the planet X model C wheels, which have 32 spokes, would these be any better do people think?
i cant afford a mega set to train on!
cheers
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If You Can't Cut It With The Big Dogs, Then Don't Pi$$ Up The Tall Trees!
If You Can't Cut It With The Big Dogs, Then Don't Pi$$ Up The Tall Trees!
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What about some open pro's on 105 hubs? If they're well built they'll stand up to most abuse and shouldn't be too costly.Tail end Charlie
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i use shimano though.......would a campag cassette work ok?_______________________________________________________________________________________
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Can you not replace the spokes?0
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i am doing on the planet x set, but the mavics no. not happy with them at all. toss wheels, never buy mavic again._______________________________________________________________________________________
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Mavic Open Pros with 105 hubs fantastic wheel set had them for around 4-5years now still amazing
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Give Pete Matthews a call. He doesn't have a web site, but if you google "Pete Matthews Wheels" you can find his contact details. He's a decent wheelbuilder and will take into account what you want to use them for and your size and weight.0
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I'd go handbuilt with a Mavic CXP-33 rim with 36 spokes. Should be stronger even than open pro.0
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steve23 wrote:t
ive seen the planet X model C wheels, which have 32 spokes, would these be any better do people think?
i cant afford a mega set to train on!
cheers
i have the planet x model B and trust me they took a hammering yesterday and are fine.0 -
ive got the model B's too an have popped the spokes!_______________________________________________________________________________________
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Pete Matthews, Harry Rowland or Paul Hewitt, amongst others will build you a pair of strong wheels. I wouldn't trash Mavic based on a cracked rim - Ksyrium SLs are one of the strongest/stiffest wheels about - a new rim is about £100 and a lot cheaper than a new pair.Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..0
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Nowt wrong with Ksyrium SLs, fab wheels. Had them six years now and going well.0
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its just because ive had 4 different brand new mavics, and bust them all!!!
i could understand it if i was 25stone and riding on cobbles!!!_______________________________________________________________________________________
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I'm currently using Roval Roubaix's atm and am pretty impressed, I did manage to slightly buckle the rear a couple of weeks back but that involved over-shooting a corner and hitting a wall
Before then they'd stood up to numerous pot hole incidents without flinching and aren't too heavy. 0 -
Ultegra 6600's
cheap (ish) , cheerful and strong...and if you trash them easy to repair or replace
or if you got a bit of cash the DT rr1850's0 -
Get handbuilts way better for training purposes than the "fancy" machine built wheels. The majority of pros train on handbuilts and they are far more robust and repairable than other options. Afterall a broken spoke on a handbuilt can be replaced pretty quickly if you know what you are doing, plus the wheel will usually still be fine to ride home on, unlike some wheels with minimal spokes.0
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get some quest como from quest bikes. £59.99 plus £10 postage. i have had these for 2 year as training wheels and cant get them to go out true. these wheels have pro-lite hubs and i have seem similar on chain reaction for £120 by prolite which are the exact same weight.0
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The Quest Comos are strong, and cheap. But light they're not!!0
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Lightweight Standard 3.
They are very strong and have a good replacement programme in the unlikely event of any damage.0 -
Lightweight? All the guys I know riding them chopped-them in for something reliable - if they go wrong you have to send them to Germany and wait for 3 months. Pete Matthew's Roubaix Specials are probably what you need.Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..0
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giant mancp wrote:The Quest Comos are strong, and cheap. But light they're not!!
Strong AND cheap sounds great to me. Light? For training? Does it matter? I have a few
friends(I know - hard to believe) that use expensive low spoke count wheels for their
daily riding. Talk about people who are p*ssed off when a spoke breaks and they are stranded. Me, if I break one, on my 32 spokers, I simply true it up right then and there(as
best I can) ride on home, fix it that night, and ride it again. Meanwhile the low spoke count people are either waiting for the local shop to fix their wheel(if the shop can) or getting it packaged up to send back to whomever made it. That's the way I see it. Expensive racing wheels are for racing.
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dennisn wrote:giant mancp wrote:The Quest Comos are strong, and cheap. But light they're not!!
Strong AND cheap sounds great to me. Light? For training? Does it matter? I have a few
friends(I know - hard to believe) that use expensive low spoke count wheels for their
daily riding. Talk about people who are p*ssed off when a spoke breaks and they are stranded. Me, if I break one, on my 32 spokers, I simply true it up right then and there(as
best I can) ride on home, fix it that night, and ride it again. Meanwhile the low spoke count people are either waiting for the local shop to fix their wheel(if the shop can) or getting it packaged up to send back to whomever made it. That's the way I see it. Expensive racing wheels are for racing.
Dennis Noward
Yeah fair enough Dennis but when i say heavy, these are heavy! I had a pair then sold them, not for me. Weight was over 2kg for the pair on 24 spokers.0 -
Handbuilt 36 spoke with heavy guage spokes (13/14 butted). Just get a rear and save some cash, you must have a shed full of front wheels by now. CXP33 was a good shout for the rim.0
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giant mancp wrote:dennisn wrote:giant mancp wrote:The Quest Comos are strong, and cheap. But light they're not!!
Strong AND cheap sounds great to me. Light? For training? Does it matter? I have a few
friends(I know - hard to believe) that use expensive low spoke count wheels for their
daily riding. Talk about people who are p*ssed off when a spoke breaks and they are stranded. Me, if I break one, on my 32 spokers, I simply true it up right then and there(as
best I can) ride on home, fix it that night, and ride it again. Meanwhile the low spoke count people are either waiting for the local shop to fix their wheel(if the shop can) or getting it packaged up to send back to whomever made it. That's the way I see it. Expensive racing wheels are for racing.
Dennis Noward
Yeah fair enough Dennis but when i say heavy, these are heavy! I had a pair then sold them, not for me. Weight was over 2kg for the pair on 24 spokers.
I know what you're saying. Strong and cheap = heavy. Strong and light = expensive(depending on how light you want to go). I often dream of building the ultimate strong, lite,
expensive wheels(i.e. DT 190 hubs, revolution spokes, etc., etc.). Now all I have to do is convince the wife that I can't, or won't, live without them. I guess the only thing left to do
is prepare for death.
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Yes the Comos get great reviews, bombproof they say and very cheap.giant mancp wrote:The Quest Comos are strong, and cheap. But light they're not!!
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All things considered I would cast my vote for my everyday wheels to be dependable
and dependable everyday without a lot of truing to keep them that way. Truing that I can do myself, without having to remove the tire or worse, having to send it to the shop or manufacturer. This kind of wheel can be made fairly cheaply(compared to some factory wheels) and if it should fail it won't p*ss me off near as much as blowing out a 1000
dollar race wheel(on a training ride) that I can't even begin to fix. Heavy? I still say "so what". It's not that much of a deal and it's not that much weight and I trust it. I guess that would be my key word, TRUST. And I don't have a ton of money 'cause if I did I'd go top of the line, ride 'em till they're trash, throw them away, repeat.
Dennis Noward0 -
My rear powertap wheel came with a Mavic Open Pro 32h rim, I was that impressed I had an Open Pro fron built up with a DT Swiss 240 hub, they are awesome, easily repairable, fairly light and look great too!
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