New Kimmgage interview

Kléber

http://nyvelocity.com/content/interview ... ul-kimmage

I know this might end up in another debate on Armstrong but the interview has some additional information into Kimmage, his thoughts on Garmin - the team he was "embedded" with last year - and some of the Garmin riders' thoughts on their time in US Postal, plus some talk on Millar and other stuff.

iainf72

Great interview.

Disappointed that he found himself taken in by...I mean taken by Bob Stapleton. Looks like it's down to me to defend the world from his spin.

dave_1

very good interview...definitely agree with him re Garmin, and am incredulous still at some of the form last weekend ...though I don't know enough about sport science perhaps...but it's like Luis herrera thrashing Hinault in a prologue to me...it's that hard to understand...or muscle bound hulks who can climb mountains fast...all the laws of physics turned upside down to me :? :shock:

dave_1

iainf72 wrote:

Great interview.

Disappointed that he found himself taken in by...I mean taken by Bob Stapleton. Looks like it's down to me to defend the world from his spin.

isn't Stapleton just a bit naive and not so shadowy a spin Dr???

warrior4life

Great interview... Thanks for posting it!!!

avoidingmyphd

interesting. nice to see him have a dig at steve "head in the sand" cram too.

teagar

Cheers! Really enjoyed that.

8)

LangerDan

There are some very good interviews on NYVelocity. Andy Shen did one earlier this year on Allen Lim, formerly of Floyd Landis, now Garmins "guru"

http://nyvelocity.com/content/interview ... rmins-guru

Thanks for the link, Kléber

DaveyL

Thanks for that link, LangerDan. These are proper interviews.

Bronzie

iainf72 wrote:

Disappointed that he found himself taken in by...I mean taken by Bob Stapleton. Looks like it's down to me to defend the world from his spin.

Yeah, but he also says he makes lots of mistakes (having faith in Bernard Kohl being one).

Seems Kimmage is as uneasy about Contador's prologue win as DaveyL.........among others.

DaveyL

I've given up - my head's still spinning from LangerDan's maths!

skavanagh.bikeradar

Cheers for the link Kleber, an interesting interview that. And I was please to see criticism of Cram and Jackson in there, I watched a bit of the BBC coverage of the Indoor European Track thingies last weekend and Cram in particular was only too happy to insinuate that Chambers is a dangerous loose cannon doing harm to the sport. Well, I'd like a proper interview with Cram where a proper journalist asks hard questions about the fact and allegations raised by Chambers and their implication for athletics.

Having Cram, Jackson and Edwards fronting coverage like this is on a par with all the former footabllers clogging up football coverage. Not a single serious journalist in sight.

sicrow

I'm sorry but I do dislike Kimmage - he has a vendetta and a mouth to go with it and he makes money from it........ I could go on and on but too busy at work at the moment

and to add insult to injury he's with Charlton !!!! - Don't get me started on him..........

iainf72

sicrow wrote:

I'm sorry but I do dislike Kimmage - he has a vendetta and a mouth to go with it and he makes money from it........ I could go on and on but too busy at work at the moment

and to add insult to injury he's with Charlton !!!! - Don't get me started on him..........

Read the article.

Like he says, he writes a cycling article maybe once or twice a year.

stagehopper

It's a great article but Kimmage has to remember one thing about many other cycling journos before he so glibly slags them off. Kimmage's job is a general sports interviewer. He can kick up as much controversy as he wants and float freely in and out of whichever sport he wants. He doesn't rely on the day-to-day cooperation of those he's reporting on. As such it's a cheap shot to so easily criticise some of the other journos who don't see Kimmage from one TdF to the next. They have livelihoods that depend on cycling - Kimmage doesn't have that balancing act.

richard wants a baum

stagehopper wrote:

It's a great article but Kimmage has to remember one thing about many other cycling journos before he so glibly slags them off. Kimmage's job is a general sports interviewer. He can kick up as much controversy as he wants and float freely in and out of whichever sport he wants. He doesn't rely on the day-to-day cooperation of those he's reporting on. As such it's a cheap shot to so easily criticise some of the other journos who don't see Kimmage from one TdF to the next. They have livelihoods that depend on cycling - Kimmage doesn't have that balancing act.

Sorry but does that make it okay to sit there and not ask the tough questions? One of the most frustrating things about reading magazines is that these issues are NEVER discussed. Maybe after someones caught you might get something but no one ever questions why some is still working with DR X. Journos should ask tough questions, after all if they all got a spine the teams would have to talk to them to get coverage of there team.

Cycling Dave

Yeah. I find it insulting and disconcerting that LA can wield so much power over the media.

Like all master-slave relationships the master only has as much power as the slave surrenders to him.

All it would take would be 20% of the journalists at a press conference to ask the right questions. He can't put them all on a blacklist for goodness sake!!

stagehopper

richard wants a baum wrote:

stagehopper wrote:

It's a great article but Kimmage has to remember one thing about many other cycling journos before he so glibly slags them off. Kimmage's job is a general sports interviewer. He can kick up as much controversy as he wants and float freely in and out of whichever sport he wants. He doesn't rely on the day-to-day cooperation of those he's reporting on. As such it's a cheap shot to so easily criticise some of the other journos who don't see Kimmage from one TdF to the next. They have livelihoods that depend on cycling - Kimmage doesn't have that balancing act.

Sorry but does that make it okay to sit there and not ask the tough questions? One of the most frustrating things about reading magazines is that these issues are NEVER discussed. Maybe after someones caught you might get something but no one ever questions why some is still working with DR X. Journos should ask tough questions, after all if they all got a spine the teams would have to talk to them to get coverage of there team.

It's a balancing act as I said. You need to cover the sport as a sport but also unearth, challenge and chase up the dopers. My point was it's easy for Kimmage from his ivory tower to criticise other journalists who don't have the scope he has in their day-to-day jobs.

skavanagh.bikeradar

Might it not be harder for Kimmage, especially in cycling as he has risked and continues to do so friends and acquaintances in the process.

You might also argue that if everyone took Kimmages attitude then Festina, Oil for Drugs, Peurto, Austrian clinic and all the rest might have been averted or at least been the catalyst for change that they ought to have been - particularly Festina.