Rolling roads or hill clime

pete600

Hi not sure if you would class my rides as rolling roads or hill climes.
When dose a rolling road turn in to a clime?

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/2414971

Thanks

robmanic1

Be honest, you've only posted because you want to make us UK folk green with envy over your exotic location! Oh well back to the muddy lanes

redddraggon

Generally for rolling roads I can stay in the 50T chainring, for a "climb" I normally need the inner ring (34 or 36T). Although some "climbs" are entirely possible in the 50T...

graeme_s-2

I've been lusting after a Garmin 705 all week, and seeing that cool cadence/heart rate/elevation/speed graph and the google map isn't helping! That's a really nice read out from a ride.

GavH

Graeme_S wrote:

I've been lusting after a Garmin 705 all week, and seeing that cool cadence/heart rate/elevation/speed graph and the google map isn't helping! That's a really nice read out from a ride.[/quote You get all of that (less the map trace) from other computers too, the Polar CS600 for example. At what gradient or length does one constitute as a 'climb'? I did few miles the other day and encountered one hill which was between 5-7% for over a mile. On the other hand i also rode up 4 seperate 'pitches' each of which reached 10% but were no more than 200-300 metres in length.

sportbilly1976

well I think it also depends upon which gear you are in at the back...

the other week i managed the cat & fiddle (for the first time) in a 50-26 on the steeper bits (although having read another thread I see this isnt the bast thing to do)...but mentally it felt better doing this than changing down from the big wheel and using a middle gear at the back....

my own definition of a "climb" is something where I am forced to change down on the front gear to maintain a reasonable speed / cadence..

pete600

Most of the hills i ride are 10%-18% and between 1/2 mile to 2 miles anything above 9% i have to change down 1st gear and can only keep a low candence 20/30.

stephenballantyne

pete600 wrote:

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/2414971

Just before the 20 mile mark, towards the top of that large looking hill your cadence drops to zero for a few dozen yards and your speed remains at c.2mph....It's not for me to speculate whether you were still sitting on the bike at that point

The data you get from those things is amazing. I'm going to start saving for one immediately.

pete600

stephenballantyne wrote:

pete600 wrote:

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/2414971

Just before the 20 mile mark, towards the top of that large looking hill your cadence drops to zero for a few dozen yards and your speed remains at c.2mph....It's not for me to speculate whether you were still sitting on the bike at that point

The data you get from those things is amazing. I'm going to start saving for one immediately.

:oops: well i would like to say that it was a technical fault with the 705. But i was nakered on the last hill to get home. 32oc 60% humidity and a truck just went past my belching out black smoke. So i had to push it. I know there is no excuses

pete600

Jake151 wrote:

Definition of a climb hmmm

When your legs are burning, your hearts pumping through your chest, your lungs are on fire due to not enough oxygen, your eyes are stinging from your sweat.

Thats a hill climb for me hehe, if I dont tick all of those box's then its not a hill climb its a slope

That's ticked all the box's every hill i go up is like that

pbracing

This is the first time I've seen this kind of data- very impressive. For me I wonder if it would be another distraction that I don't need. I just need to ride and then ride some more.

What I did want to know is is it usual for the cadence to be so 'spikey'? I know it's an up and down route, but it the cadence falls to zero a lot. When I ride I keep the pedals spinning virtually all the time (except for regular leg stretching).
Any thoughts?

pete600

As you say there is no substitution for riding. The thing i like about the garmin in the Virtual Partner. You can see how far in front or behind you are compered to you last ride. Gives you the incentive to push it a bit more.

The candence is spiky because when i go down the hills i freewheel

sibike

that data is really good that your 705 shows.
does anyone no if the 305 allows you to gather info like this as im thinking of getting one or this only available on the 705.

kettrinboy

it looks like youve got 2 or 3 fair climbs in there and about 470m of climb in 23 miles , as a comparison i live in Northamptonshire which is classic rolling hill terrain in the UK and over 20-25 miles would usually do 200-300m of climb so your ride is fairly hilly, i noticed your heart rate goes from 180 bpm down to 33 bpm in one go is that cos youre really fit or was the HR monitor strap playing up, ive got an Edge 305 and have to seal the battery cover with a thin bead of araldite glue to stop sweat getting in and sending the HR reading all over the place

pete600

kettrinboy wrote:

it looks like youve got 2 or 3 fair climbs in there and about 470m of climb in 23 miles , as a comparison i live in Northamptonshire which is classic rolling hill terrain in the UK and over 20-25 miles would usually do 200-300m of climb so your ride is fairly hilly, i noticed your heart rate goes from 180 bpm down to 33 bpm in one go is that cos youre really fit or was the HR monitor strap playing up, ive got an Edge 305 and have to seal the battery cover with a thin bead of araldite glue to stop sweat getting in and sending the HR reading all over the place

That makes me feel a bit better thought if the hills i ride where classed as rolling roads i would sell the bike and give up.

Yep the HR monitor dose play up a bit. If i keep a good sweat up it ok but if i dry out it give a false reading. There is a gel you can get from the pharmacist that you apply and keeps a good contact between the monitor and your chest

Gary D

sibike wrote:

that data is really good that your 705 shows.
does anyone no if the 305 allows you to gather info like this as im thinking of getting one or this only available on the 705.

All of the data is gathered exactly the same with the 305. (Not the 205 as this does not have the barometric altimeter) However, for some reason, Garmin Connect which is the software that is shown there, does not work with the 305 at the moment - only the 705 (and 605?).

There are lots of other software packages available that show the same data though such as MapMyRide. That one is really good as you can run the ride through dynamically on a map and it gives the instantaneous readings for speed,elevation, heart rate etc. It is free to access most of the functions but you have to subscribe for all of them.

Hope this helps.
Gary.

Frank the tank

I suppose it all depends on your ability. I recall the tour of Britain going up the "hill" from Cromford to black rock which to me is steep as a b*****d and a lung buster, in the big ring.

I call rolling roads ones where effort is required but you're not blowing out your a**e. Unless of course it's towards the end of the ride.