Advice on two issue (ankle and hub)
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Ankle:
The back of my right ankle hurts, it only hurts when I cycle and put pressure on the ball of my foot. The pain mostly occurs when I cycle and remains present for a whileafterwards. When I stretch the ankle in various directions it doesn't hurt, only hurts when I put weight on it.
The same pain is present in my left ankle but nothing like the right ankle. I can't use my 52 ring without a considerable amount of pain.
Should I be worried? Is there any home remedies I can use or should I go straight to the doctor?
Fulcrum 7
The freewheel on my Fulcrum has stopped making its clicky sound, it nearly is silent. If you listen to it carefully you can here the freewheel sound and then stopping and then starting again but its nothing like it was or should be.
My girlfriend bought the Fulcrums from Wiggle as a X-mas present.
Is this normal for them?
Ankle:
The back of my right ankle hurts, it only hurts when I cycle and put pressure on the ball of my foot. The pain mostly occurs when I cycle and remains present for a whileafterwards. When I stretch the ankle in various directions it doesn't hurt, only hurts when I put weight on it.
The same pain is present in my left ankle but nothing like the right ankle. I can't use my 52 ring without a considerable amount of pain.
Should I be worried? Is there any home remedies I can use or should I go straight to the doctor?
Fulcrum 7
The freewheel on my Fulcrum has stopped making its clicky sound, it nearly is silent. If you listen to it carefully you can here the freewheel sound and then stopping and then starting again but its nothing like it was or should be.
My girlfriend bought the Fulcrums from Wiggle as a X-mas present.
Is this normal for them?
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A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
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Wiggle are very good at replying to mechanical issues (in my experience) so drop them a line - you may get a refund/replacement straight away, and if you don't you can post what they come back with.
The ankle sounds dodgier, especially with LiT's recent injury. I don't know if we have anyone on here who can give a useful diagnosis/opinion so it might be best to visit a physio (better than a doctor? Or do you need to be referred to one by your GP?).0 -
Where in your ankle? Do you mean achiles area or more bone related? Did this occur during yesterdays commute? If so it can't be a coincidence that it was straight after the longest ride you have done. It sounds initially like an overuse injury and that you need to rest it for a few days and see if the pain diminishes. If it stays the same or gets worse then go see the quack. Oh while you are at it, R.I.C.E. = Rest Ice Compression Elevation.
Will keep my fingers crossed that it is a minor strain from grinding up those hills!Short hairy legged roadie FCN 4 or 5 in my baggies.
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Blondie, will contact Wiggle.
Feltup, its around the achilies area. I noticed it yesterday but GF pointed out I was limping on Sunday night. Gonna stay off the bike for a few days if it hasn't gone then will see doctor.Food Chain number = 4
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@ DDD. I would suggest that you take it easy on the ankle, but more importantly, introduce a regime of stretching into your routine. I stretch my calves and thighs after every ride, even my commute. Lost the habit of doing this earlier on in the year and promptly picked up a niggle.
As for the wheels, I'll hazard a guess that some of the water from Sunday has found its way into the hub. Get it down the LBS for a service.- 2023 Vielo V+1
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@DDD If you feel a slight grinding around your Achilles, then you've probably overdone it a bit. Either way, foot up, bag of frozen peas on it wrapped in a tea towel to hold in place. Then milk it! Ooh sweatheart, get us another beer from the fridge etc" type thing.
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@DDD You said you cramped up on the marlborough weekend ride. Your symptoms could be after effects from that. Take it easy for a few days, apply the RICE regime as others have suggested. If symptoms persist more than a few days then get thee to a doctor. I'm fairly certain the Marlborough ride was a shock to the system and your body is rebelling a bit. You should come back stronger, thoughjashburnham wrote:@ DDD. I would suggest that you take it easy on the ankle, but more importantly, introduce a regime of stretching into your routine. I stretch my calves and thighs after every ride, even my commute. Lost the habit of doing this earlier on in the year and promptly picked up a niggle.
As for the wheels, I'll hazard a guess that some of the water from Sunday has found its way into the hub. Get it down the LBS for a service.
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Ok. Found the ankle thread.
Lots of good advice above. Sounds as if your calf muscle got overtired at the weekend, placing undue strain on the achilles (marathon runners can get this in the tendon over the knee cap, once their quads decide it's time to pack up and go home). If you put your fingers either side of the achilles and move your foot up and down, can you feel a grinding, gritty sensation? That's an inflamed tendon.
RICE. Ibuprofen will help reduce swelling, or apply voltarol cream directly (don't take ibu tabs and apply cream together!). Boots sell blue gel packs you can put in the freezer to make into ice packs. Get one. Or Two.
And get thee to a physio, NOW. Like, today or tomorrow. A physio will be able to help you more if they see the symptoms when they are acute. A doc will tell you "Inflamed achilles. RICE. And perhaps see a physio." Save yourself a visit. Doesn't sound too bad at the moment, but then nor did LiTs, right up to the point at which it ruptured.0 -
Frozen peas work better than rice and are cheaper than gel packs.0
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Always Tyred wrote:Frozen peas work better than rice and are cheaper than gel packs.
Ah, but frozen peas don't work so well if you try to refreeze them. Lots of times.
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Greg66 wrote:Always Tyred wrote:Frozen peas work better than rice and are cheaper than gel packs.
Ah, but frozen peas don't work so well if you try to refreeze them. Lots of times.
And peas are Satan's vegetable of choice. FACT!
That must mean John Major was Satan!
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On further self experimentation the hurt only occurs when I press down on the ball of my foot - then the back of my ankle (achilies area) hurts. I did press this area, pinch it with my fingers and rotate the ankle, no pain. It only hurts when pressure or force is applied.
Other the course of a few hours the pain subsides and I am able to walk for intervals - eventually is starts to hurt. But the pain is only at its worst during cycling.
Will Rest, Ice, Compress, Elevate it and take it to a physio.
Once again thanks.Food Chain number = 4
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2nd for the Boots blue gel packs - made sure I've had at least 2 in the freezer for years. Ten quid that gets used again and again.
Before Xmas had a 2nd degree ankle sprain and decided to borrow a TENS machine. Generally worked for me as a method of pain relief, well enough to buy my own. You can get a 2 pad one from chemists for £150 -
OK, ok, so here I am with the ankle thing...
My ankle was fine then f*cked. Really, really, really painful. Like I cycled home with tears rolling down my face grimacing and making uncontrollable funny guttral noises painful. I could walk, but only if I walked on the outside of my foot. If I used my big toe, it was painful enough to take my breath away like someone had winded me. So I doubt you've ruptured it.
However, although I'd noticed some slight achiness before then, it was nothing, no specific symptoms, just achy and tight. It sounds like you may have an inflamed achilles, I would advise you to take anti-inflammatory painkillers, and rest, ice, elevation. I never quite get what the 'compression' bit is all about. If it gets worse in any way go to a doctor. Inflammation can lead to a rupture.0 -
lost_in_thought wrote:My ankle was fine then f*cked. Really, really, really painful. Like I cycled home with tears rolling down my face grimacing and making uncontrollable funny guttral noises painful.
Yeah, but that's because you are a burd.lost_in_thought wrote:I could walk, but only if I walked on the outside of my foot. If I used my big toe, it was painful enough to take my breath away like someone had winded me. So I doubt you've ruptured it.
See, now, DDD is a bloke, so he has that immunity to physical pain and incredible self-discipline that blokes have. So he won't be like that at all. :twisted:0 -
Greg66 wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:My ankle was fine then f*cked. Really, really, really painful. Like I cycled home with tears rolling down my face grimacing and making uncontrollable funny guttral noises painful.
Yeah, but that's because you are a burd.lost_in_thought wrote:I could walk, but only if I walked on the outside of my foot. If I used my big toe, it was painful enough to take my breath away like someone had winded me. So I doubt you've ruptured it.
See, now, DDD is a bloke, so he has that immunity to physical pain and incredible self-discipline that blokes have. So he won't be like that at all. :twisted:
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Greg66 wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:My ankle was fine then f*cked. Really, really, really painful. Like I cycled home with tears rolling down my face grimacing and making uncontrollable funny guttral noises painful.
Yeah, but that's because you are a burd.lost_in_thought wrote:I could walk, but only if I walked on the outside of my foot. If I used my big toe, it was painful enough to take my breath away like someone had winded me. So I doubt you've ruptured it.
See, now, DDD is a bloke, so he has that immunity to physical pain and incredible self-discipline that blokes have. So he won't be like that at all. :twisted:
Greg's right! I have a friend, greatest football player I've seen who isn't a professional or in a under 16 signed to a professional team. Too this day none of us can do the things he does, can curl a ball like him or has his control. He has a broken hip and pins holding it in place and has one leg slightly shorter than the other. Watching him play football is both beautiful and upsetting, all my football passionate friends feel the same.
More than 10yrs ago he broke his hip wihile playing football. He didn't want to go to the doctor, MTFU and all that. Several months (possibly a year - he won't say) later his Mum asked him why he always walked funny, eventually he went to the doctors (I assume the pain got to much) he found out his hip was broken and he was grinding away the seperated bone...
True story.
I sought advice. Conclusion.
I can walk on the ankle but I can't cycle on it (this suggests a certain muscle movement is over stressed - If it was a tear or something it would just hurt always). If I cycle it hurts like hell and then I can't walk on it either. (I need to try running on it in a couple of days).
I'm not cycling until Sunday (I don't think I need to see a doctor yet). I will ride my bike then. If it hurts again I'll go to the doctors ASAP. If I was fitter and used to long consistent distances and it hurt like this after Sundays ride I should go to the doctors straight away - In my case its just muscles not being used to the extent or as consistantly as I did during the Marlborough Loop.
The left ankle hurts in this way but not as much. Becuase both ankles hurt I've been told I've 'stressed' out both muscles, the right one more so as it's the stronger one - use it more, and I just need to rest them for a couple days.... even footballers can't play football every day.Food Chain number = 4
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itboffin wrote:Greg66 wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:My ankle was fine then f*cked. Really, really, really painful. Like I cycled home with tears rolling down my face grimacing and making uncontrollable funny guttral noises painful.
Yeah, but that's because you are a burd.lost_in_thought wrote:I could walk, but only if I walked on the outside of my foot. If I used my big toe, it was painful enough to take my breath away like someone had winded me. So I doubt you've ruptured it.
See, now, DDD is a bloke, so he has that immunity to physical pain and incredible self-discipline that blokes have. So he won't be like that at all. :twisted:
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jashburnham wrote:@ DDD. I would suggest that you take it easy on the ankle, but more importantly, introduce a regime of stretching into your routine. I stretch my calves and thighs after every ride, even my commute. Lost the habit of doing this earlier on in the year and promptly picked up a niggle.
As for the wheels, I'll hazard a guess that some of the water from Sunday has found its way into the hub. Get it down the LBS for a service.
You're dead right jash, we cyclists are renowned for having short tendons due to repetitive muscle movement through a short range and, coupled with the fact that we are often out in the cold weather, and that most of us fail to stretch and warm up before riding, and more importantly after riding, it's no wonder we suffer.Pictures are better than words because some words are big and hard to understand.
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lost_in_thought wrote:itboffin wrote:Greg66 wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:My ankle was fine then f*cked. Really, really, really painful. Like I cycled home with tears rolling down my face grimacing and making uncontrollable funny guttral noises painful.
Yeah, but that's because you are a burd.lost_in_thought wrote:I could walk, but only if I walked on the outside of my foot. If I used my big toe, it was painful enough to take my breath away like someone had winded me. So I doubt you've ruptured it.
See, now, DDD is a bloke, so he has that immunity to physical pain and incredible self-discipline that blokes have. So he won't be like that at all. :twisted:
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Right. Shin-kicking competition, old man? I'll go first... :twisted:
No thanks. My kind are wise to the tricks and games of you yokels:A London lawyer goes shooting in East Anglia and kills a pheasant, which falls into a field on the other side of a fence. As he climbs the fence, an elderly gentleman asks him what he’s doing.
The Lawyer responds, “I shot a pheasant and it fell in this field, I’m going into retrieve it.” The old farmer replies, “This is my property, and yaar’s not coming in.”
The indignant Lawyer says, “I am feared across the City! I am in all the top legal directories! If you don’t let me get the pheasant, I’ll sue you!” The farmer smiles and says, “Yaa’ don’t know how we do things ‘ere in East Anglia. We settle disagreements like this with Three-Kick Rule.”
The lawyer asks, “What’s that?” The Farmer replies “Farst I kick yaar three times in t'shins, then yaar kicks me three times in t'shins, and so on, back and forth, until one of us gives up.”
The lawyer quickly decides that he can easily take the old farmer and agrees. The farmer slowly walks up to the lawyer. His first kick plants his heavy work boot square into the lawyer's left shin and sends him hopping in circles. His second kick nearly breaks the lawyer's right shin. The lawyer is rolling on his back when the farmer’s third kick - a stamp down, really - to the left shin results in an audible "crack".
But the lawyer summons every bit of his will power and manages to get to his feet and says through gritted teeth and a grimace, “Okay, you old bastard, now it’s my turn.” The old farmer smiles and says, “Naah lad, I give up. Yaar can have tha' pheasant.”
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lost_in_thought wrote:Alright, yokels, which one of you told him?
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Christophe3967 wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:Alright, yokels, which one of you told him?
<<Shuffles feet, hands in smock pocket, looks down, chews nervously on straw>>
Damn it! You all know the policy on tham tharrr townsfolke.0 -
lost_in_thought wrote:Christophe3967 wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:Alright, yokels, which one of you told him?
<<Shuffles feet, hands in smock pocket, looks down, chews nervously on straw>>
Damn it! You all know the policy on tham tharrr townsfolke.
LiT I don't get it how are you a yokel? The Queen speaks your English its so posh.
Then again, you are incredibly strong, farmer strong one might say...Food Chain number = 4
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DonDaddyD wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:Christophe3967 wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:Alright, yokels, which one of you told him?
<<Shuffles feet, hands in smock pocket, looks down, chews nervously on straw>>
Damn it! You all know the policy on tham tharrr townsfolke.
LiT I don't get it how are you a yokel? The Queen speaks your English its so posh.
Then again, you are incredibly strong, farmer strong one might say...
I'm from the country, in't et? Kernow, to be precise.
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lost_in_thought wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:Christophe3967 wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:Alright, yokels, which one of you told him?
<<Shuffles feet, hands in smock pocket, looks down, chews nervously on straw>>
Damn it! You all know the policy on tham tharrr townsfolke.
LiT I don't get it how are you a yokel? The Queen speaks your English its so posh.
Then again, you are incredibly strong, farmer strong one might say...
I'm from the country, in't et? Kernow, to be precise.
But yeah, the accent is raaaaather plummy!
When I next see you I want you to say "The rain in Spain stays mainly on the plane".
I also find it ironic that no one naturally talks that posh, you have to pay for it. Almost like it's not real just implied... like the silent Nothern t 'in' <<insert silent t>> et'
Still wish I could speak that posh...
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People do talk like that - I just had it educated into me! The school I was at told me a west country accent was a 'hindrance'.
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lost_in_thought wrote:People do talk like that - I just had it educated into me! The school I was at told me a west country accent was a 'hindrance'.
Friends of mine from school almost all speak like me.
Should have kept the west country accent, kept it real aight
Actually come to think about it there are a lot of posh tongues in the SCR crowd. You (Queen of them all), Snooks, Biondino, Linsen, Attica, Littagator, Greg T, Greg 66, ITB... Just once I want to go to the Mopeth and say the words 'blood and wah gwan' and have someone understand me and not run away in a fit of panic and fear...
(I would say Bassjunkie has a posh accent but he lives too close to the tasty jerk centre... Mmmmm jerk centre....)
Anywho, ankle is mostly OK still need to take it easy as it twinges at certain angles(twinge = a slight minor pain that is slightly enjoyable to experience if that is your kind of thing)Food Chain number = 4
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DonDaddyD wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:People do talk like that - I just had it educated into me! The school I was at told me a west country accent was a 'hindrance'.
Friends of mine from school almost all speak like me.
Should have kept the west country accent, kept it real aight
Actually come to think about it there are a lot of posh tongues in the SCR crowd. You (Queen of them all), Snooks, Biondino, Linsen, Attica, Littagator, Greg T, Greg 66, ITB... Just once I want to go to the Mopeth and say the words 'blood and wah gwan' and have someone understand me and not run away in a fit of panic and fear...
(I would say Bassjunkie has a posh accent but he lives too close to the tasty jerk centre... Mmmmm jerk centre....)
Anywho, ankle is mostly OK still need to take it easy as it twinges at certain angles(twinge = a slight minor pain that is slightly enjoyable to experience if that is your kind of thing)
Posh? have you actually met us?
I was born in Lambeth old bean schooled in Fulham then educated at Sandhurst
Snooks is buying a yacht that makes him posh, biondio is a media man = new posh, linsen & attica bumkins through and through, GregT & Greg66 are the same person - Jekyll & Hyde so they qualify either way.
LiT is def posh and very confused as to where she's from :P Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
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itboffin wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:People do talk like that - I just had it educated into me! The school I was at told me a west country accent was a 'hindrance'.
Friends of mine from school almost all speak like me.
Should have kept the west country accent, kept it real aight
Actually come to think about it there are a lot of posh tongues in the SCR crowd. You (Queen of them all), Snooks, Biondino, Linsen, Attica, Littagator, Greg T, Greg 66, ITB... Just once I want to go to the Mopeth and say the words 'blood and wah gwan' and have someone understand me and not run away in a fit of panic and fear...
(I would say Bassjunkie has a posh accent but he lives too close to the tasty jerk centre... Mmmmm jerk centre....)
Anywho, ankle is mostly OK still need to take it easy as it twinges at certain angles(twinge = a slight minor pain that is slightly enjoyable to experience if that is your kind of thing)
Posh? have you actually met us?
I was born in Lambeth old bean schooled in Fulham then educated at Sandhurst
Snooks is buying a yacht that makes him posh, biondio is a media man = new posh, linsen & attica bumkins through and through, GregT & Greg66 are the same person - Jekyll & Hyde so they qualify either way.
LiT is def posh and very confused as to where she's from :P
How many of the above read The Sun newspaper?
If you don't read The Sun, if you don't know who Zoe 26 from London is then your posh... Food Chain number = 4
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DonDaddyD wrote:itboffin wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:People do talk like that - I just had it educated into me! The school I was at told me a west country accent was a 'hindrance'.
Friends of mine from school almost all speak like me.
Should have kept the west country accent, kept it real aight
Actually come to think about it there are a lot of posh tongues in the SCR crowd. You (Queen of them all), Snooks, Biondino, Linsen, Attica, Littagator, Greg T, Greg 66, ITB... Just once I want to go to the Mopeth and say the words 'blood and wah gwan' and have someone understand me and not run away in a fit of panic and fear...
(I would say Bassjunkie has a posh accent but he lives too close to the tasty jerk centre... Mmmmm jerk centre....)
Anywho, ankle is mostly OK still need to take it easy as it twinges at certain angles(twinge = a slight minor pain that is slightly enjoyable to experience if that is your kind of thing)
Posh? have you actually met us?
I was born in Lambeth old bean schooled in Fulham then educated at Sandhurst
Snooks is buying a yacht that makes him posh, biondio is a media man = new posh, linsen & attica bumkins through and through, GregT & Greg66 are the same person - Jekyll & Hyde so they qualify either way.
LiT is def posh and very confused as to where she's from :P
How many of the above read The Sun newspaper?
If you don't read The Sun, if you don't know who Zoe 26 from London is then your posh...
I am well posh.0
