Superstar components - ??

Whytepeak
Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
edited March 2009 in MTB buying advice
Does anyone know if there is a source of these products other than the superstar website - was thinking of getting some of their Nano pedals, but don't want to do so through the webo,

thanks
Now that we are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak and not to please ourselves. ROMANS 15:1
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Check the Wellgo catalogue out, probably find them in there.
  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    Can't find them on welly's website- surely as comprehensive as their catalogue, could get wellys, as long as i'm not being influenced, eh supersonic :lol: :shock:
    Now that we are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak and not to please ourselves. ROMANS 15:1
  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    Eh.. i'll have a look - sorry for posts above - laptop went crazy
    Now that we are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak and not to please ourselves. ROMANS 15:1
  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    Why not just go through superstar? You know you can return them unused and get a refund, right?
    Uncompromising extremist
  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    I wouldn't be buying, since i don't have a visa card - and parents are suspect of internet sites - when i'm older.... :(
    Now that we are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak and not to please ourselves. ROMANS 15:1
  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    Ahh yes, writing a cheque for everything, even the milk at the corner shop - my brother by the way :lol:

    Some parent - offspring communication will have to be arranged :)
    Now that we are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak and not to please ourselves. ROMANS 15:1
  • Hello, Superstar parts are only availible directly from us, hence why they are cheaper (no distributors or shops taking their cut)

    You can pay by card on the internet, or phone us up and do it over the phone. Post a cheque, or move money from your bank account to paypal, and then send the money to us that way.

    Our pedals are not made by welgo, most of the welgos are made using diecasting (all of the mag ones are diecast) which is weaker than an extruded and CNC machined pedal that we use. Plus ours are much thinner and lighter. Our mags are a completely different kettle of fish to MG-1s, which are still good pedals!

    Any questions please feel free to drop me an email, or phone 01522 705121

    Thankyou, Neil
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    How much do they weigh?
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Also, I am having problems navigating the site. When I try and view a product, I get the 'welcome' please sign in' mesage. Then I get it no matter what link I press!
  • Eranu
    Eranu Posts: 712
    Yet again light years ahead in spec for the money. 340g total weight for the pair make these one of the lightest flat pedals in the world. Well, not if you count the Ti Axle version at 275g a pair! CNC machined magnesium gives a stronger pedal and a better finish and to my knowledge everyone else on the market uses cast mag alloy, which is a bit cheap and nasty to be honest!

    From their site, thats the mag pedals, for the interweb challenged ;)
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Not bad at all for the money!

    Are lighter though ;-)
  • BeardedDave
    BeardedDave Posts: 1,977
    Eranu wrote:
    Yet again light years ahead in spec for the money. 340g total weight for the pair make these one of the lightest flat pedals in the world. Well, not if you count the Ti Axle version at 275g a pair! CNC machined magnesium gives a stronger pedal and a better finish and to my knowledge everyone else on the market uses cast mag alloy, which is a bit cheap and nasty to be honest!

    From their site, thats the mag pedals, for the interweb challenged ;)

    Wellgo MG-1's with Ti axle are lighter. They are listed at 198grams the pair and having bought some and weighed them I can say that that figure is spot on.
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    I got my wellgos for 19 quid lol, can't fault that at 376g. Cage is quite thick, but I have a high BB anyway, and that chunkiness does make them strong. Never seen or heard of a bust one.

    Pound not as good now so they have crept up.

    I'd certainly look at the superstar ones if buying new now though,
  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    Good - I'll go for them then - superstar
    Now that we are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak and not to please ourselves. ROMANS 15:1
  • If your having problems with the website asking to log you in, then its usually because of your internet security settings not allowing temporary cookies on our site. Just monkey around in your options to cure that. Lots of the browsers have sent out updates, which have caused this.

    198g for a pair? No way, i cant see that is possible as just the Ti axles weigh about 90g for the pair!
  • I believe the MG1 ti's are listed at 298g, not 198g.
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  • BeardedDave
    BeardedDave Posts: 1,977
    Apologies on the above. I stand corrected. I've just checked and the MG1 ti's are 298g as Captain Turok rightly states, so Superstar win the prize for lightest flat pedals. :D
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  • canada16
    canada16 Posts: 2,360
    Would still go for wellgo mg1's anyday.

    Cheap and light, after a year+ of abuse, they are still going strong
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Apologies on the above. I stand corrected. I've just checked and the MG1 ti's are 298g as Captain Turok rightly states, so Superstar win the prize for lightest flat pedals. :D

    There is a 300g mag pedal they do (pair) with steel axles, or used to be. With the ti axles were 235g! Mg28 is 334g.
  • batch78
    batch78 Posts: 1,320
    Is this turning into Weight Weenies!!!!!!! :lol:
  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    On the subject of superstars I just noticed my disc brake pad i got off them has come apart completely and a lot of people have had the same problem.Cheap rubbish.
    Smarter than the average bear.
  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    And yet a lot of people don't have that problem. I've seen it happen with OEM pads in the past. I imagine it'll happen to one of my superstar sets sooner or later but I'm 3 sets down and no problems so far, and all 3 sets cost less than one shimano OEM and have lasted longer.
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  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    Yeah good value if you don`t have a problem but I won`t be chancing it again,it wouldn`t be good if they failed on a steep hill.
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  • I've had one set of sintered out of four come away from the backing plate from one of the big players in the £5 pads market (their name genuinely escapes me - I'll add it if I remember...), which I sent back to them and they refunded me no quibbles.

    One set of my four organic from superstar components came away from the backing plate but I've managed to loose the pad somewhere in my shed in the rush to sort it before a ride so haven't been in touch with them.

    Despite several promises that these early dodgy batches had problems but they're now solved, I believe that this problem does still exist. However, you can get 4 pairs for not much more than 1 pair OEM, do the sensible thing and put a spare set of pads in your pack - you should always carry a spare pair anyway. Should the worst happen swap them out on the trail. It does sometimes happen with upmarket pads too.

    The problem seems to me that the backing plate appears to painted after the braking material has been bonded to it (the paint is also up the sides of the braking material so I assume the manufacturers just grind the surface of it down to tidy it up for sale) and the backing plate is made from some cheap grade of steel. It appears water can sometimes get in between the braking material and backing plate due to a less than perfect bond, which causes rusting and in turn pushes the braking material off of the backing plate. I believe this because you get a dead giveaway of a braking material shaped rust patch on the disc when you get the bike out of the shed - take the pads out and its rusted where the braking material used to be, not where its painted.

    The 'proper' manufacturer pads (i.e. from Avid & Hayes in my case) all appear to have copper backing plates and are unpainted.

    Even with 1 in 4 (in my limited experience) falling apart, the fact that they last almost as long as the OEM pads means they still work out a lot cheaper. When you've got 3 bikes that always seem to need pads replacing at the same time you certainly notice the difference in cost!!

    Anyone tried discobrakes.com pads? They also do dirt cheap pads but different compounds by the look of things...
  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    I only wish I could change pads on the trail but I have nothing but trouble getting new ones in.I just had to let some fluid out to get the new ones in {avid juicy}.Not ideal and they are a little spongy but at least they are in.The only 2 other occasions I changed pads,or tried to anyway, cost me £35 at LBS in total to get them sorted,not incuding pads.I`m sick of the damn things.
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    You need V brakes ;-)
  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    I wish I had v-brakes sometimes,they always stopped me in the past.Do you have any idea why I can`t get my pads in,super?
    Smarter than the average bear.
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Avids are a royal pain in the backside to fit pads. You are not the only one.

    Takes a lot of patience.