The low down from an honest doper!
I only just read this and my opinion of Vandenbroucke has shot up. Any body going to moan about spitting in the soup?
Vandenbroucke fought with equal dirty weapons
Frank Vandenbroucke said he only took the same stuff as the second placed rider...
Photo ©: Roberto Bettini
Frank Vandenbroucke said that he won Liège-Bastogne-Liège in 1999 "honestly", because he and all the other top riders were all using the same doping preparations.
In an interview with the Belgian men's magazine Che, he said, he won the race "in an honest manner. Because I am 100 percent certain that I had taken nothing differently that day than the second, the third, the fourth and the fifth place finishers. Everyone rode with the same thing in himself, we fought with equal weapons.
"Therefore it was an honest race, with an honest result. That day, or rather that year, I was the best of all. Everybody in the peloton knew it."
The 34-year-old said that new drugs were introduced into the peloton by "pioneers". According to HLN.be, which reported the interview, he said that the Italian team Gewiss "was the EPO pioneer, everyone knew that. Furlan, Berzin, Argentin ... there is a reason why at a certain moment some men are riding 10 kilometre per hour faster than the others."
Vandenbroucke, who will ride this season for the Belgian-Australian Continental team Fuga-Down Under, regretted never having "had the chance to be a pioneer, to try out new doping products first." He said that if he had had the chance, he "would have done it without doubt. .... Everyone would have seized that chance. Nobody should be hypocritical about that!"
Some of his major victories did come while he was not doped, Vandenbroucke insisted. In 1994 he won the Queen Stage of the Tour Méditerranéen, ahead of riders "with a hematocrit of 60. Mine was 42!"
Vandenbroucke ranked that mountaintop finish as greater than his later win in L-B-L. "Because I fought them with unequal resource. They had been prepared by their doping doctors Michele Ferrari and Luigi Cecchini. Whereas I ... I rode, so to speak, on bread and water."(SW)
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Boogerd reckons he was clean...
"If I had used the same thing (that Vandenbroucke had used), then I would have won," the former Rabobank rider said.
"It is possible that we used the same thing in 1999, but it would have been a slice of brown bread with cheese," he told DePers.nl. "I haven't taken Vandenbroucke seriously for a long time."
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Well he would say that the others were doping wouldnt he ?0
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afx237vi wrote:Boogerd reckons he was clean...
"If I had used the same thing (that Vandenbroucke had used), then I would have won," the former Rabobank rider said.
"It is possible that we used the same thing in 1999, but it would have been a slice of brown bread with cheese," he told DePers.nl. "I haven't taken Vandenbroucke seriously for a long time."
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id= ... feb26news2
Boogerd's blood was in the Austrian clinic. Just a lier like the rest of 'em. Rabobank have always been known as a hot team, right through their espoirs too.0 -
"shot up" is probably not the best expression the OP could have used...Le Blaireau (1)0
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I've heard of Dutch coffee shops where you get more than a cup of java. The next time I'm in Amsterdam I'll also be careful if I see bruin brood met kaas on the menu in a snack bar.0
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Welcome back Forearms, not seen you posting for a while!
Yes I'd thought Boogerd has been linked to that Austrian clinic, along with others, but nothing much seemed to come of it in the end.
Anyway, top 10 from 1999 L-B-L...Rabobank did do relatively well that day.
1) VDB (Cofidis)
2) Boogie (Rabo)
3) Den Bakker (Rabo)
4) Bartoli (Mapei)
5) Bettini (Mapei)
6) Abersold (Rabo)
7) M.Zberg (Rabo)
8) Camezind (Lampre)
9) Bolts (Telekom)
10) Roux (Casino)0 -
Chapeau to Michael Boogerd for not appearing bitter for as a clean rider he was surely robbed of so many wins during his career. Just look at that top-10, many got busted and banned, except for clean old Boogie of course :roll:0
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Of course it's unlikely Boogie was clean, like any succesful rider in the late 90s, but to call someone as unstable and so deeply stuck into series of doping and drugs cases and lies an 'honest doper', no. It's not exactly like he was the 'immediately clear and honest about his single mistake' type of doper. Honest junkie perhaps... Well, I guess if you come from a position where you claim your doping stash was for your dog and raced under a false license while suspended, it doesn't take much to improve on your image....0
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ian222 wrote:Frank Vandenbroucke said that he won Liège-Bastogne-Liège in 1999 "honestly", because he and all the other top riders were all using the same doping preparations.
In an interview with the Belgian men's magazine Che, he said, he won the race "in an honest manner. Because I am 100 percent certain that I had taken nothing differently that day than the second, the third, the fourth and the fifth place finishers. Everyone rode with the same thing in himself, we fought with equal weapons.
"Therefore it was an honest race, with an honest result.
Heheheh..heh..heh - that's the funniest thing I've read in a while - brilliant comedy 0 -
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Martin Van Nostrand wrote:LOL..clean Belgian rider...good one.
Gilbert?It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
Or Edwig van Hooydonck?0
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Gianni Meersman?0
