British jobs for British people.

Frank the tank

I'm all for that.

I wonder though, how many of those taking industrial action support football teams crammed full of overseas players (a lot from outside the EU aswell) at the expence of British players?

Just a thought

-liam-

Not really the point is it ?

I like football, but some things are irrelevant.

Frank the tank

I know, but I'm just trying to stimulate a bit of debate.

Gavin Gilbert

Lincolnshire - County Motto of "Our sisters for breeding and chickens for pleasure"

So you'd hardly expect them to understand how the world works, would you? Probably hasn't crossed their pea-sized brains that there are British people working for British companies all across Europe at this very moment. I wonder how they would feel if the boot was on the other six-toed foot?

MInd you, as The Vulcan hasn't refuted my suggestions of his BUF tendancies, we can only assume his fellow countymen are of similar in-bred stock

Oh - and whilst we're at it - I reckon Lincolnshire has the worst drivers in the UK...

1footedninja

http://users.aristotle.net/~diogenes/meaning1.htm

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the police.
Five minutes later, the police arrive.
Before the policeman has a chance to ask any questions, the man starts
screaming hysterically: "My Porsche, my beautiful silver Porsche is
ruined.
No matter how long it's at the panel beaters it'll simply never be the
same again!"
After the man finally finishes his rant, the policeman shakes his head
in disgust.
"I can't believe how materialistic you bloody Londoners are," he says.
"You lot are so focused on your possessions that you don't notice
anything else in your life."
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owner.
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off when the truck hit you."
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pneumatic

Actually, there are very few British people left to take these jobs

Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Scots, Vikings, Normans, Hannovarians and all their descendants should just go back where they came from.

schmako

'British' people are all far too lazy and incompetent, its a sinking ship that I'm going to have to bail from soon I reckon.

Gavin Gilbert

Schmako wrote:

'British' people are all far too lazy and incompetent, its a sinking ship that I'm going to have to bail from soon I reckon.

By ripping up the Act of Union, or moving somewhere with good weather, food and National football team ?

OffTheBackAdam

Can we have our money back from the "Barnet Formula", before you leave?
Oh, and make sure you take Gordon Brown and the rest of those useless Labour Jocks when you go.
Thanks!

Frank the tank

I'm half English, half Scottish so I class myself as a true Brit, though having lived in England all my life I look on myself as more English, truth be told. Although I do a fair Glaswegian accsent.

Thing is I get right narked when people run down the capabilities of the British workforce, I work in a business and the ability to do the task is irrelivent, the company just want to "offload" our work to anybody who say they can do it, even if they can't. And I know they can't 'cos I've had to put their s**t work right. :evil:

There are many things wrong in this country but the work ethic of the majority is not one to be questioned. That is not to say we have not got our share of shysters.

sicrow

from what I understand all those wildcat strikes were illegal, I'd sack them all for gross misconduct

pieinthesky

Many years ago the British workforce were exploited and badly treated. Over the years things have improved, we now have rights and reasonable pay.

Some employers dont like workers to have rights and reasonable pay as it reduces their profits. They therefore employ cheap foreign labour to do our jobs. (Either by bringing the workers here or moving production abroad)

The British workers who cannot work as a result of cheap foreign labour have to claim benefits.

Employing cheap foreign labour therefore increases profits for employers but increases costs to the taxpayers.

This is effectively robbing the poor to give to the rich, which is something our poxy govornment should be protecting us from!

Rant Over, thankyou for listening

Gavin Gilbert

pieinthesky wrote:

Many years ago the British workforce were exploited and badly treated. Over the years things have improved, we now have rights and reasonable pay.

Some employers dont like workers to have rights and reasonable pay as it reduces their profits. They therefore employ cheap foreign labour to do our jobs. (Either by bringing the workers here or moving production abroad)

The British workers who cannot work as a result of cheap foreign labour have to claim benefits.

Employing cheap foreign labour therefore increases profits for employers but increases costs to the taxpayers.

This is effectively robbing the poor to give to the rich, which is something our poxy govornment should be protecting us from!

Rant Over, thankyou for listening

The imported labour has mostly been doing the jobs that the British workers wouldn't touch. Or else jobs that are too technical or specialist for the British workers. Where British workers have been 'replaced' by foreign workers this has largely been due to the job re-locating overseas, i.e. Call Centres and Coding Sweatshops.

On of the reasons for importing labour is that in a downturn that labour tends to return home. The primary feature of Neo-EU immigration into the UK is that most of those coming here never intended to stay. Certainly there are number of Polish shops in West London closing their doors as the communities they served up sticks and return home.

Frank the tank

Gavin Gilbert wrote:

pieinthesky wrote:

Many years ago the British workforce were exploited and badly treated. Over the years things have improved, we now have rights and reasonable pay.

Some employers dont like workers to have rights and reasonable pay as it reduces their profits. They therefore employ cheap foreign labour to do our jobs. (Either by bringing the workers here or moving production abroad)

The British workers who cannot work as a result of cheap foreign labour have to claim benefits.

Employing cheap foreign labour therefore increases profits for employers but increases costs to the taxpayers.

This is effectively robbing the poor to give to the rich, which is something our poxy govornment should be protecting us from!

Rant Over, thankyou for listening

The imported labour has mostly been doing the jobs that the British workers wouldn't touch. Or else jobs that are too technical or specialist for the British workers. Where British workers have been 'replaced' by foreign workers this has largely been due to the job re-locating overseas, i.e. Call Centres and Coding Sweatshops.

On of the reasons for importing labour is that in a downturn that labour tends to return home. The primary feature of Neo-EU immigration into the UK is that most of those coming here never intended to stay. Certainly there are number of Polish shops in West London closing their doors as the communities they served up sticks and return home.

I'm with you on those points.

nwallace

sicrow wrote:

from what I understand all those wildcat strikes were illegal, I'd sack them all for gross misconduct

From what I've gathered from the TV News, they are Contractors.
And for Contractors to down tools it must be fairly major.

nasahapley

Crikey Gavin Gilbert, your first post is a near enough verbatim reproduction of my thoughts when I first heard about this. I even agree with you about the drivers. I just hope that there isn't some kneejerk political reaction to this that sets us on the road to protectionism and nationalism. I am feeling a bit of schadenfreude in seeing another of Gordon Brown's past utterings (along with 'no more boom and bust') come back to bite him on the a**e though - 'British jobs for British workers' - sounds good but given the rules on free movement of workers within the EU it was never anything but hot air.

SBezza

Basically from what I have heard, a foreign (Italian) company won a contract (probably because they were the lowest price), and they want to use the labour that the contract is based upon.

From what I can see it is not like a hundred new jobs going to overseas workers, it is an Italian company winning a contract and using their own workforce.

If a British company won a overseas contract and had to use local labour, then the British would be up in arms, this is no different, why should an overseas company have to employ local people to do a job, they already have employees for.

The wildcat strikes are illegal, and they should either be forced back into work, or lose their jobs and let those that want to work do them instead. A recession is not the best time to stop working and strike IMO, they should be concentrating on doing their own jobs well, not worrying about other contracts.

1footedninja

Interesting article on Protectionism (ism's are such a schism) and its implications within a globalisation context , yunno the thing that is happening around the world right now, with the N.W.O supportees and there quasi-religious insane march toward full microchipping of the population of the world ( hahaha and who says a few cannot rule the world - its simply a piece of cake really)

Oh, some info about strikes in France and the current ongoing Strikes within the UK also, oh gosh its just all so exciting, of course unless you actually might lose your job over this and then the knock on effects from that, or the possibilty that you might actually be looking for work and not able to get work because after all we do live within a capitlist regime built on the ludicrous system of money- money equalling power, and a nanny / big brother state that reads like an Orwellian nightmare but its all so easy for some in their ivory towers to not see THE BIGGER PICTURE. ie what effects others, rather than just YOU and your cushty little bolthole escape from the madness that surrounds you and the verbal pomposity that we all spout when really all that where doing is trying to circumflex our own dominance over others, think of it as cerebral soapbox territorial p**sing.When really we are all just damp squibs in a BIGGER PICTURE of control by a select Banking elite who manufacture reality around us and run the show.

Think beyond I am this or I am that, we are a part of this faction or this faction, why not think GLOBALLY instead , now theres an incendiary thought! we could even take it further and say we are part of an even bigger picture, think universally, but then we might just come across as nutjobs - nah mean blud. And by jove wouldnt want to rock that boat would we with the insane running the asylum.

Time to evolve, sentinent human beings... or are you just a mere biological robot ? a puppet in someone elses pantomime ? myself , I am just as much a part of the problem as I am the solution, although me thinks I would rather be more a part of the solution that involves a less sick war mongering world which is pretty much all the UK government, EU and USA has to offer me apparently , where doth my hard earned go ? exactly why do I even do what I do ? ahhhh , can it be I am being hoodwinked or am I the hoodwinker ?

interesting article , none the less.... I apologise for going off on one... but I don't apologise for what I have to say.

http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/opinio ... k_side.php

...and please do pigeonhole me. I do not expect anything less.

http://www.theadvocates.org/communicati ... minds.html ,

If you look up 'closed minds' quotes - a funny thing happens, you find closed mind quotations by various other people and sources.

oh joy!

" I look at it this way... For centuries now, man has done everything he can to destroy, defile, and interfere with nature: clear-cutting forests, strip-mining mountains, poisoning the atmosphere, over-fishing the oceans, polluting the rivers and lakes, destroying wetlands and aquifers... so when nature strikes back, and smacks him on the head and kicks him in the nuts, I enjoy that. I have absolutely no sympathy for human beings whatsoever. None. And no matter what kind of problem humans are facing, whether it's natural or man-made, I always hope it gets worse ". - George Carlin

oh, and on another note when you post on bikeradar keep in mind you are being asked to 'SUBMIT' when you press the 'submit' button to enter your view askew on whatever you wish to diatribe about.... just a small thought in a BIGGER PICTURE.

teagar

Title strikes me as a bit xenephobic to be honest.

I fear this is good breeding ground for far right activity. As far as I am concerned, nationalism has nothing to do with any entitlement to jobs or anything else for that matter.

To use a comedian's way of putting it, it wasn't like anyone told their mother to point their crotch towards Dover when they were born. It's pure chance where you are born. So why should it entitle you to a job that the company otherwise would rather give to someone else?

pneumatic

Auf Wiedersehen Pet?

1footedninja

possibly of interest and pertinence

http://www.ukcolumn.org/2009/02/02/dear ... ew-labour/

oh and a joke....

Why are there no aspirin in the jungle?

Because it would not be financially viable to attempt to sell
pharmaceuticals in the largely unpopulated rainforest.

Gavin Gilbert

teagar wrote:

As far as I am concerned, nationalism has nothing to do with any entitlement to jobs or anything else for that matter.

Oh yes it does Except the nation is now called Europe.

Billios

The italians are gonna bring their workers home...including Fabio Capello. British jobs for British people...and all that. Idiots, the lot of them. Half the universities here would close with the lack of research staff.

teagar

Gavin Gilbert wrote:

teagar wrote:

As far as I am concerned, nationalism has nothing to do with any entitlement to jobs or anything else for that matter.

Oh yes it does Except the nation is now called Europe.

:roll:

You know what I mean...

1footedninja

1footedninja

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Links in with title of this thread.