How do you do this?

jellikins
jellikins Posts: 153
edited January 2009 in Workshop
I am thinking of putting these on my Madone 5.2 (2008).

Is it an easy operation or an LBS job?

Kcnc C-Brake Road Caliper Set - Front and Rear

http://clee-cycles.co.uk/cc/catalog/pro ... d52927aa92

Comments

  • barrybaines
    barrybaines Posts: 273
    Depends on your competency I guess? But so long as you have a set of Allen keys and some spanners you should do just fine!
    http://www.justgiving.com/26-and-a-bit-miles
  • jellikins
    jellikins Posts: 153
    I would also like to ask if they defo fit please?!
  • John.T
    John.T Posts: 3,698
    Yes they will fit. A lot of money for very little if any improvement though. The Ultegras on my 5.2 work fine.
    My Fleet.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,337
    A general rule about brakes says that the heavier the calipers are the better they will be.
    There are a few items on a bike where it's not worth saving weight: skewers above all, but also brakes (which are less functional than heavier ones of similar quality), seatposts (which can bend if aluminium or if carbon brake more easily that heavier ones) and aluminium handlebars for the same reasons.

    If I were you, I would keep my shimano brakes and spend the money on a cycling weekend somewhere nice. Waste of money
    left the forum March 2023
  • rapid_uphill
    rapid_uphill Posts: 841
    they look very jolly.
  • dombo6
    dombo6 Posts: 582
    I'd put the money towards some decent wheels. My 105 brakes worked fine descending Tourmalet and Hautacam in the wet in last year's etape.
  • dombo6
    dombo6 Posts: 582
    I'd put the money towards some decent wheels. My 105 brakes worked fine descending Tourmalet and Hautacam in the wet in last year's etape.
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Waste of money

    +1 Although I have to ask. Is it the "RED"? Because you're not getting "better" brakes.
    If you must have them for bling, then you must, I guess. I think a lot of people mistake
    really high prices and fancy colors, from these so called "boutique" manufacturers, as
    a sigh of quality, performance, speed, etc. IMHO it's mostly weight weenie bragging
    rights stuff.
    Piece of cake to install.

    Dennis Noward
  • aarw
    aarw Posts: 448
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    A general rule about brakes says that the heavier the calipers are the better they will be.
    There are a few items on a bike where it's not worth saving weight: skewers above all, but also brakes (which are less functional than heavier ones of similar quality), seatposts (which can bend if aluminium or if carbon brake more easily that heavier ones) and aluminium handlebars for the same reasons.

    If I were you, I would keep my shimano brakes and spend the money on a cycling weekend somewhere nice. Waste of money

    So shimano 105 brakes which are heavier than the dura ace should therefor be better? sorry, that's a stupid statement. a more suitable statement would be there are a few items on a bike where it's not worth going for cheap sh1t.

    The KCNC calipers don't do a bad job at all, but suggest changing the pads that come with them as standard. I wouldn't recommend them for a heavier rider though.

    If someone wants to upgrade a component on their bike great.
    There may be better places to start, but if these have caught your eye then go for it. They good value in comparison to the other lightweight calipers out there.

    just an opinion...
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    nice - would be interesting to see what the stopping power was like compared to other high end brakes
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  • wildmoustache
    wildmoustache Posts: 4,010
    aarw wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    A general rule about brakes says that the heavier the calipers are the better they will be.
    There are a few items on a bike where it's not worth saving weight: skewers above all, but also brakes (which are less functional than heavier ones of similar quality), seatposts (which can bend if aluminium or if carbon brake more easily that heavier ones) and aluminium handlebars for the same reasons.

    If I were you, I would keep my shimano brakes and spend the money on a cycling weekend somewhere nice. Waste of money

    So shimano 105 brakes which are heavier than the dura ace should therefor be better? sorry, that's a stupid statement. a more suitable statement would be there are a few items on a bike where it's not worth going for cheap sh1t.

    The KCNC calipers don't do a bad job at all, but suggest changing the pads that come with them as standard. I wouldn't recommend them for a heavier rider though.

    If someone wants to upgrade a component on their bike great.
    There may be better places to start, but if these have caught your eye then go for it. They good value in comparison to the other lightweight calipers out there.

    just an opinion...

    I was going to say a similar thing in more moderate language. DA are way better brakes than Sora and indeed better than any other Shimano road brakes IME.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,337
    aarw wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    A general rule about brakes says that the heavier the calipers are the better they will be.
    There are a few items on a bike where it's not worth saving weight: skewers above all, but also brakes (which are less functional than heavier ones of similar quality), seatposts (which can bend if aluminium or if carbon brake more easily that heavier ones) and aluminium handlebars for the same reasons.

    If I were you, I would keep my shimano brakes and spend the money on a cycling weekend somewhere nice. Waste of money

    So shimano 105 brakes which are heavier than the dura ace should therefor be better? sorry, that's a stupid statement. a more suitable statement would be there are a few items on a bike where it's not worth going for cheap sh1t.

    The KCNC calipers don't do a bad job at all, but suggest changing the pads that come with them as standard. I wouldn't recommend them for a heavier rider though.

    If someone wants to upgrade a component on their bike great.
    There may be better places to start, but if these have caught your eye then go for it. They good value in comparison to the other lightweight calipers out there.

    just an opinion...

    I am sorry you get so excited and offended when it comes to the Shimano range: if you noticed I have said "of equal quality". The fact that dura Ace might be better than 105, is due to better design, quality of springs etc, certainly not because they are lighter. Infact, if they were made out of stainless steel, giving the same design, quality etc, I bet they would work better.
    left the forum March 2023
  • kafkathedog
    kafkathedog Posts: 242
    If you swap, can i have your ultegra brakes......please
  • aarw
    aarw Posts: 448
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    aarw wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    A general rule about brakes says that the heavier the calipers are the better they will be.
    There are a few items on a bike where it's not worth saving weight: skewers above all, but also brakes (which are less functional than heavier ones of similar quality), seatposts (which can bend if aluminium or if carbon brake more easily that heavier ones) and aluminium handlebars for the same reasons.

    If I were you, I would keep my shimano brakes and spend the money on a cycling weekend somewhere nice. Waste of money

    So shimano 105 brakes which are heavier than the dura ace should therefor be better? sorry, that's a stupid statement. a more suitable statement would be there are a few items on a bike where it's not worth going for cheap sh1t.

    The KCNC calipers don't do a bad job at all, but suggest changing the pads that come with them as standard. I wouldn't recommend them for a heavier rider though.

    If someone wants to upgrade a component on their bike great.
    There may be better places to start, but if these have caught your eye then go for it. They good value in comparison to the other lightweight calipers out there.

    just an opinion...

    I am sorry you get so excited and offended when it comes to the Shimano range: if you noticed I have said "of equal quality". The fact that dura Ace might be better than 105, is due to better design, quality of springs etc, certainly not because they are lighter. Infact, if they were made out of stainless steel, giving the same design, quality etc, I bet they would work better.

    Don't be sorry, i'm not offended.... i use campag!

    i'd say the quality of the pads has a lot to do with your stopping power. the stiffness of the caliper will also be a major factor of course. i doubt the KCNC's are as stiff as the more common, heavier calipers.
  • wildmoustache
    wildmoustache Posts: 4,010
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    aarw wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    A general rule about brakes says that the heavier the calipers are the better they will be.
    There are a few items on a bike where it's not worth saving weight: skewers above all, but also brakes (which are less functional than heavier ones of similar quality), seatposts (which can bend if aluminium or if carbon brake more easily that heavier ones) and aluminium handlebars for the same reasons.

    If I were you, I would keep my shimano brakes and spend the money on a cycling weekend somewhere nice. Waste of money

    So shimano 105 brakes which are heavier than the dura ace should therefor be better? sorry, that's a stupid statement. a more suitable statement would be there are a few items on a bike where it's not worth going for cheap sh1t.

    The KCNC calipers don't do a bad job at all, but suggest changing the pads that come with them as standard. I wouldn't recommend them for a heavier rider though.

    If someone wants to upgrade a component on their bike great.
    There may be better places to start, but if these have caught your eye then go for it. They good value in comparison to the other lightweight calipers out there.

    just an opinion...

    I am sorry you get so excited and offended when it comes to the Shimano range: if you noticed I have said "of equal quality". The fact that dura Ace might be better than 105, is due to better design, quality of springs etc, certainly not because they are lighter. Infact, if they were made out of stainless steel, giving the same design, quality etc, I bet they would work better.

    it's often a trade-off ugo ... the most solid bike road bike might be a heavy aluminium one with a heavy saddle, wheels etc ... but is the additional robustness worth the additional 4kg? no. Very light bikes can still be reliable as long as you take care with component selection ... that said, these brakes are not something I'd go for.
  • Pirahna
    Pirahna Posts: 1,315
    The opinion on Weight Weenies is that the KCNC calipers are slightly more flexible than say a Dura Ace. This in itself isn't a bad thing, it just gives the KCNC's a different feel. Bear in mind I havn't tried them, only read what owners have to say.

    I've been using Kurve brakes most of last year and at 80 kilos I had no issues with them whatsoever on Alpine decents. They replaced a pair of Record Skeloton calipers and I prefer the feel. I've also got 08 Ultegra on another bike and much prefer the Kurves. Pads were upgraded to Kool Stop salmon as the ones they came with were a bit rubbish.

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