Hoy, SS and gear inches

il_principe
il_principe Posts: 9,155
edited December 2008 in Commuting chat
@ the Fixed/SS peeps on here - just reading about Chris Hoy's steed for the ill-fated Race of Champions and came across this snippet:

"Sugino cranks and bottom bracket transmit's Hoy's 2kW-plus plus via a 50 tooth chainring and Izumi chain to a 16 tooth freewheel."

That's less inches than LiT runs - but exactly what I use. Is 50/16 the perfect gear for speedy yet technical SS?Fixed riding? I though the big man would be pushing a bigger ring...

http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/article/mps/uan/3692

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  • Wrath Rob
    Wrath Rob Posts: 2,918
    The RoC was a relatively tight and twisty circuit. I'd expect that on a track he's running bigger GI than that to do 60+kph

    Or both of you are not as strong as you think you are ;)
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  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Wrath Rob wrote:
    The RoC was a relatively tight and twisty circuit. I'd expect that on a track he's running bigger GI than that to do 60+kph

    No I realise that he runs bigger on the track, hence my observation re technical riding...
  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    It's all about acceleration and braking, on a tight twisty circuit there's no time to wind it up and hit a top speed of 60+, and it wouldn't do him much good if he could, he'd never slow down for the corners.
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  • edhornby
    edhornby Posts: 1,780
    IIRC his track racing gear for the olympics had a GI of 106 or something crazy like that.....
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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    jashburnham wrote:
    @ the Fixed/SS peeps on here - just reading about Chris Hoy's steed for the ill-fated Race of Champions and came across this snippet:

    "Sugino cranks and bottom bracket transmit's Hoy's 2kW-plus plus via a 50 tooth chainring and Izumi chain to a 16 tooth freewheel."

    That's less inches than LiT runs - but exactly what I use. Is 50/16 the perfect gear for speedy yet technical SS?Fixed riding? I though the big man would be pushing a bigger ring...

    http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/article/mps/uan/3692
    Without wishing to divert another fixed gear thread with mindless "geared" musings: In addition to the "weight weenie" phase and the "overt colour coordination" phase, many cyclists also at some stage pass through a "shorter gears make me effeminate" phase.

    This latter phase leads the afflicted cyclist into the mistaken belief that they are "better" for being able to remain upright whilst grinding unfeasably long gears.

    Here in the "geared world", this unfortunate condition leads cyclists to odd purchasing decisions such as 42T inner rings and 11-21 cassettes, for cycling trips to Wales.

    Medication is now available which helps cyclists to attain a level of lucidity sufficient for them to understand that they DO NOT need to run longer gears than either (a) Lance Armstrong or Alberto Contador (b) Chris Hoy.
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    edited December 2008
    @always Tyred - is your bike entirely black, very heavy and spinnier than a helicopter at full rpm? It is isn't it?!

    :lol:

    ps I run a 50/34 11/23 or 13/26 on the roadie, but then I don't climb mountains on the SS (except for the odd Col in Richmond Park)
  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    indeed and thinking of the fact that i'd probably visit my folks and that the one lanes nr my folks place most cars can't hold 2nd gear up it, i chose some (for road) fairly low gearing for the old racer.

    this said having a go on a track bike while on honeymoon was a hoot.
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    jashburnham wrote:
    @always Tyred - is your bike entirely black, very heavy and spinnier than a helicopter at full rpm? It is isn't it?!

    :lol:
    #
    Actually, that's pretty close, the commuter anyway.

    Soon it will be pearlescent orange with matching stem. I must point out that this was the only decent steel, disc equipped, cross bike available in the UK. I would have preferred black, or grey, but it only comes in orange. Thus, in anticipation of your next point, I do not regard this as double standards.
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    roger merriman wrote:
    this said having a go on a track bike while on honeymoon was a hoot.
    Are you still married?
  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    > 2000 W :shock:

    That's some serious power.
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  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    Greg66 wrote:
    > 2000 W :shock:

    That's some serious power.

    Have you seen the guy's training regime to achieve that, it's brutal :shock:
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    WTF - 50-16 is 30mph @120RPM, how many of you can actually do anywhere near than 30mph on the flat, for more than a few seconds?

    50-16 is probably about right for Hoy........
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  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    Rich158 wrote:
    Greg66 wrote:
    > 2000 W :shock:

    That's some serious power.

    Have you seen the guy's training regime to achieve that, it's brutal :shock:

    Shurely not as brutal as two SCR sessions a day, punctuated by a spell in an office?

    Now *that's* brutal.

    [BTW, I think 120 rpm is borderline low cadence for the track boys]
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  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    Always Tyred wrote:
    roger merriman wrote:
    this said having a go on a track bike while on honeymoon was a hoot.
    Are you still married?

    Yup! Though not yet two months so...
  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    I am more than happy to lend out the book about the lovely Mr Hoy, now that I've read it 9 or 10 times...

    He pushes 100+ on the track, and has achieved up to 60mph (yes, that's mph) in training, although over longer distances...

    I want to go to a velodrome... :cry:
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    Pah :!: you could take him any day.
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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    I am more than happy to lend out the book about the lovely Mr Hoy, now that I've read it 9 or 10 times...

    He pushes 100+ on the track, and has achieved up to 60mph (yes, that's mph) in training, although over longer distances...

    I want to go to a velodrome... :cry:
    So, he won the sports personality thing..... but have your housemates seen the phone bill yet, LiT? :wink:
  • The Chingford Skinhead
    The Chingford Skinhead Posts: 718
    edited December 2008
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    I am more than happy to lend out the book about the lovely Mr Hoy, now that I've read it 9 or 10 times...

    He pushes 100+ on the track, and has achieved up to 60mph (yes, that's mph) in training, although over longer distances...

    I want to go to a velodrome... :cry:

    There is a new one just opened in Redbridge - just on the Essex bounary so shouldn't be too hard for you to get to 8) :wink:

    (when you're better of course :oops: )

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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Greg66 wrote:
    > 2000 W :shock:

    That's some serious power.

    I asked Jamie Staff at the Freewheel what wattage he was knocking out on his world record lap. He said they obviously didn't have the power meters on during the race - took 'em off two weeks before the racing began, but before then, he was pumping out over 2,000. Which is just silly.
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