public apology - sorry Jamey

linsen

I feel duly punished for teasing you, Jamey.

Today on my drizzly early morning jaunt the puncture fairy came to visit....

After 50 miles on my "puncture resistant tyres"

I feel fully initiated into the cycling community now, however, as I managed a roadside repair, and to get enough psi into the tyre to get me to the LBS to check the damage. (Oh and I remembered to look for the problem and found and extracted a piece of glass)

Must say I was glad of the latex gloves - put some in your saddle pack today!

Note to self - buy a CO2 canister :?

Merry Christmas to you all

il_principe

linsen wrote:

I feel duly punished for teasing you, Jamey.

Today on my drizzly early morning jaunt the puncture fairy came to visit....

After 50 miles on my "puncture resistant tyres"

I feel fully initiated into the cycling community now, however, as I managed a roadside repair, and to get enough psi into the tyre to get me to the LBS to check the damage. (Oh and I remembered to look for the problem and found and extracted a piece of glass)

Must say I was glad of the latex gloves - put some in your saddle pack today!

Note to self - buy a CO2 canister :?

Merry Christmas to you all

2 very very important bits of kit!

linsen

I know - took me 5 mins to replace the tube and another 15 to get even 40psi in the blinking tyre!

Rich158

Add in a canister or two of Vittoria Pit Stop. Absolutely magic stuff, a can of foam that cures all ills (well punctures) and inflates the tyres to 40psi readu to be topped up by a gas canister or hand pump.

I have to admit to a flat rear tyre when I got the bike out of the shed this morning. Being too lazy to fix it properly out came the Pit Stop which has done a stirling job in getting me to work. I think I'll have to check it at lunchtime though.

itboffin

If you go down the co2 route then always take at least 2 with you and or a can of big air, they never fill a tyre quite as much as it's says on the tin.

Plus a back up pump, try this website they're cheap and sell in bulk http://www.tyreinflators.co.uk/index.php

il_principe

Always carry a pump as well as gas. I use a pump to get a bit of air into the new tube - makes fitting easier. I run 700x23 and a 16gm canister will fill those beautifully.

owenlars

Dumb question!

I carry CO2 but have never had to use it in 18 months and 8000 miles. How do you know when you've got sufficient pressuer in there without the gauge? I assume using the good old fashioned thumb and forefinger squeeze method.

itboffin

jashburnham wrote:

Always carry a pump as well as gas. I use a pump to get a bit of air into the new tube - makes fitting easier. I run 700x23 and a 16gm canister will fill those beautifully.

who rattled your cage :evil:

il_principe

itboffin wrote:

jashburnham wrote:

Always carry a pump as well as gas. I use a pump to get a bit of air into the new tube - makes fitting easier. I run 700x23 and a 16gm canister will fill those beautifully.

who rattled your cage :evil:

Right, that's it. I'm heading up north - time to rustle your herd.

(I consider anywhere North of Watford to be "The North")

itboffin

owenlars wrote:

Dumb question!

I carry CO2 but have never had to use it in 18 months and 8000 miles. How do you know when you've got sufficient pressue in there without the gauge? I assume using the good old fashioned thumb and forefinger squeeze method.

Excellent point indeed, I believe the co2 refill will give you enough pressure to get home safely, I've tested this a few times on my MTB and road bike neither had anywhere near the right pressure, it could have been user error. Still a good and quick tool.

itboffin

jashburnham wrote:

itboffin wrote:

jashburnham wrote:

Always carry a pump as well as gas. I use a pump to get a bit of air into the new tube - makes fitting easier. I run 700x23 and a 16gm canister will fill those beautifully.

who rattled your cage :evil:

Right, that's it. I'm heading up north - time to rustle your herd.

(I consider anywhere North of Watford to be "The North")

Tut tut I live in the South West far South of Watford & London

il_principe

itboffin wrote:

jashburnham wrote:

itboffin wrote:

jashburnham wrote:

Always carry a pump as well as gas. I use a pump to get a bit of air into the new tube - makes fitting easier. I run 700x23 and a 16gm canister will fill those beautifully.

who rattled your cage :evil:

Right, that's it. I'm heading up north - time to rustle your herd.

(I consider anywhere North of Watford to be "The North")

Tut tut I live in the South West far South of Watford & London

Yokel.

greg66_tri_v2.0

owenlars wrote:

Dumb question!

I carry CO2 but have never had to use it in 18 months and 8000 miles. How do you know when you've got sufficient pressuer in there without the gauge? I assume using the good old fashioned thumb and forefinger squeeze method.

I use this: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Innov ... 360018215/
which despite the huge picture, is very small (ie as small as a little finger).

You put it on the valve and about 2/3 of a second later your tyre is up to pressure. It stops inflating when the pressure in the tyre equalises with with pressure in the cannister. On a thumb test, I'd say it gets up to about 90psi with no problems.

itboffin

jashburnham wrote:

itboffin wrote:

jashburnham wrote:

itboffin wrote:

jashburnham wrote:

Always carry a pump as well as gas. I use a pump to get a bit of air into the new tube - makes fitting easier. I run 700x23 and a 16gm canister will fill those beautifully.

who rattled your cage :evil:

Right, that's it. I'm heading up north - time to rustle your herd.

(I consider anywhere North of Watford to be "The North")

Tut tut I live in the South West far South of Watford & London

Yokel.

Now now don't throw all your toys out of the pram

Okay i'll stop now it's just too cruel.

il_principe

Greg66 wrote:

owenlars wrote:

Dumb question!

I carry CO2 but have never had to use it in 18 months and 8000 miles. How do you know when you've got sufficient pressuer in there without the gauge? I assume using the good old fashioned thumb and forefinger squeeze method.

I use this: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Innov ... 360018215/
which despite the huge picture, is very small (ie as small as a little finger).

You put it on the valve and about 2/3 of a second later your tyre is up to pressure. It stops inflating when the pressure in the tyre equalises with with pressure in the cannister. On a thumb test, I'd say it gets up to about 90psi with no problems.

Exactly what I have. The neoprene case for the canister is a must though!

iain_j

linsen wrote:

After 50 miles on my "puncture resistant tyres"

That's usually the distance I get on new "puncture resistant tyres" before they're proved wrong. They're always ok after that, but without fail i puncture new tyres on their first long ride.

Clever Pun

itboffin wrote:

jashburnham wrote:

itboffin wrote:

jashburnham wrote:

Always carry a pump as well as gas. I use a pump to get a bit of air into the new tube - makes fitting easier. I run 700x23 and a 16gm canister will fill those beautifully.

who rattled your cage :evil:

Right, that's it. I'm heading up north - time to rustle your herd.

(I consider anywhere North of Watford to be "The North")

Tut tut I live in the South West far South of Watford & London

no you don't... not proper job west country

greg66_tri_v2.0

jashburnham wrote:

Greg66 wrote:

owenlars wrote:

Dumb question!

I carry CO2 but have never had to use it in 18 months and 8000 miles. How do you know when you've got sufficient pressuer in there without the gauge? I assume using the good old fashioned thumb and forefinger squeeze method.

I use this: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Innov ... 360018215/
which despite the huge picture, is very small (ie as small as a little finger).

You put it on the valve and about 2/3 of a second later your tyre is up to pressure. It stops inflating when the pressure in the tyre equalises with with pressure in the cannister. On a thumb test, I'd say it gets up to about 90psi with no problems.

Exactly what I have. The neoprene case for the canister is a must though!

I used to think that. Until I realised that putting my glove back on to do the inflation did the job

And think of the weight saving from ditching the neoprene case

always_tyred

linsen wrote:

I feel duly punished for teasing you, Jamey.

Today on my drizzly early morning jaunt the puncture fairy came to visit....

After 50 miles on my "puncture resistant tyres"

I feel fully initiated into the cycling community now, however, as I managed a roadside repair, and to get enough psi into the tyre to get me to the LBS to check the damage. (Oh and I remembered to look for the problem and found and extracted a piece of glass)

Must say I was glad of the latex gloves - put some in your saddle pack today!

Note to self - buy a CO2 canister :?

Merry Christmas to you all

I have never used CO2 canisters. Instead, I make do with a spare tube, pump AND A PATCH KIT and I set fire to the currency that I have saved in order to keep warm.

Latex gloves? Is this a cycling fetish I'm not aware of?

Okay - things that have no place being brightly coloured -
1. tyres; roads are dirty and predominantly grey.
2. bar tape; bikes, when used out doors, get dirty. Therefore in normal use, gloves get dirty.
3. cycling gloves

If you follow these simply guidelines, you will be able to repair a flat tire, put a shipped chain back on, repair a loose spoke or chain link, on the road in crappy weather, without a dainty pair of marigold gloves, since you will not have to worry about your grubby bike gloves leaving gruby marks on your grubby bar tape.

If you insist on matching white and red everything, simply replace it all after every ride. :roll:

il_principe

Always Tyred wrote:

linsen wrote:

I feel duly punished for teasing you, Jamey.

Today on my drizzly early morning jaunt the puncture fairy came to visit....

After 50 miles on my "puncture resistant tyres"

I feel fully initiated into the cycling community now, however, as I managed a roadside repair, and to get enough psi into the tyre to get me to the LBS to check the damage. (Oh and I remembered to look for the problem and found and extracted a piece of glass)

Must say I was glad of the latex gloves - put some in your saddle pack today!

Note to self - buy a CO2 canister :?

Merry Christmas to you all

I have never used CO2 canisters. Instead, I make do with a spare tube, pump AND A PATCH KIT and I set fire to the currency that I have saved in order to keep warm.

Latex gloves? Is this a cycling fetish I'm not aware of?

Okay - things that have no place being brightly coloured -
1. tyres; roads are dirty and predominantly grey.
2. bar tape; bikes, when used out doors, get dirty. Therefore in normal use, gloves get dirty.
3. cycling gloves

If you follow these simply guidelines, you will be able to repair a flat tire, put a shipped chain back on, repair a loose spoke or chain link, on the road in crappy weather, without a dainty pair of marigold gloves, since you will not have to worry about your grubby bike gloves leaving gruby marks on your grubby bar tape.

If you insist on matching white and red everything, simply replace it all after every ride. :roll:

:roll:

Latex gloves aren't exactly expensive (£2.50 for 100) and some of us don't want our frame/kit getting covered in grease and cr@p - I'm sure you love it, I don't.

As for not using Co2 - that's your prerogative. When I puncture, especially when it's winter and cold/wet or I'm in a hurry/commuting/doing a sporitve/training with buddies - I could spend ages messing around with a patch or pump getting cold/wet, or I could wack in a new tube, inflate it in seconds and be on my way... punctured tubes can be repaired at home, in the warm. Oh and 10 Co2 canisters = £5.38. We're not talking big bucks here are we! I've no needed more than 5 or so this year anyway!

But you go ahead, save your tenner and lug around a frame pump, I'm going to stay warm, dry and clean.

Jamey

Only just noticed this thread, apology accepted

Although I'm not actually counting punctures for CDWP purposes.

always_tyred

jashburnham wrote:

Always Tyred wrote:

linsen wrote:

I feel duly punished for teasing you, Jamey.

Today on my drizzly early morning jaunt the puncture fairy came to visit....

After 50 miles on my "puncture resistant tyres"

I feel fully initiated into the cycling community now, however, as I managed a roadside repair, and to get enough psi into the tyre to get me to the LBS to check the damage. (Oh and I remembered to look for the problem and found and extracted a piece of glass)

Must say I was glad of the latex gloves - put some in your saddle pack today!

Note to self - buy a CO2 canister :?

Merry Christmas to you all

I have never used CO2 canisters. Instead, I make do with a spare tube, pump AND A PATCH KIT and I set fire to the currency that I have saved in order to keep warm.

Latex gloves? Is this a cycling fetish I'm not aware of?

Okay - things that have no place being brightly coloured -
1. tyres; roads are dirty and predominantly grey.
2. bar tape; bikes, when used out doors, get dirty. Therefore in normal use, gloves get dirty.
3. cycling gloves

If you follow these simply guidelines, you will be able to repair a flat tire, put a shipped chain back on, repair a loose spoke or chain link, on the road in crappy weather, without a dainty pair of marigold gloves, since you will not have to worry about your grubby bike gloves leaving gruby marks on your grubby bar tape.

If you insist on matching white and red everything, simply replace it all after every ride. :roll:

:roll:

Latex gloves aren't exactly expensive (£2.50 for 100) and some of us don't want our frame/kit getting covered in grease and cr@p - I'm sure you love it, I don't.

As for not using Co2 - that's your prerogative. When I puncture, especially when it's winter and cold/wet or I'm in a hurry/commuting/doing a sporitve/training with buddies - I could spend ages messing around with a patch or pump getting cold/wet, or I could wack in a new tube, inflate it in seconds and be on my way... punctured tubes can be repaired at home, in the warm. Oh and 10 Co2 canisters = £5.38. We're not talking big bucks here are we! I've no needed more than 5 or so this year anyway!

But you go ahead, save your tenner and lug around a frame pump, I'm going to stay warm, dry and clean.

1. Seriously, do you carry moisturizer around with you as well? A mirror?

2. Who said anything about a frame pump? You need to carry a pump anyway - I can't imagine anyone actually relying on gas cannisters. I used to use them for a life jacket and, well, I only ever regarded that life jacket as a "legal compliance" gesture and I didn't replace the gas cannister monthly as asvised. Do they actually bleed flat that fast? Who knows, but I wouldn't want to find out at the side of a road if that's all I have. So, you have to be able to pump the tyre up anyway, so you have to have a pump, and if you have a pump, why have the pfaff of canisters as well? You either add them to the back pocket, or have a bigger saddle bag, neither of which are terribly desirable.

3. You would be surprised how much heat a fiver gives off. Its special paper, you know.

4. Lighten up dude.

linsen

blimey I go out to walk the dog and this is what happens!

The gloves simply stopped my gloves / hands getting mucky - a reasonable precaution for the weight / effort. I needed the cycling gloves off to feel for the glass, sort it out etc.

I have BLACK tyres now, thank you very much.

I have never tried those CO2 canister thingies, but I feel they would save me a lot of effort, even if I do end up topping up with my (of course I have one) pump.

So there

il_principe

Always Tyred wrote:

1. Seriously, do you carry moisturizer around with you as well? A mirror?

2. Who said anything about a frame pump? You need to carry a pump anyway - I can't imagine anyone actually relying on gas cannisters. I used to use them for a life jacket and, well, I only ever regarded that life jacket as a "legal compliance" gesture and I didn't replace the gas cannister monthly as asvised. Do they actually bleed flat that fast? Who knows, but I wouldn't want to find out at the side of a road if that's all I have. So, you have to be able to pump the tyre up anyway, so you have to have a pump, and if you have a pump, why have the pfaff of canisters as well? You either add them to the back pocket, or have a bigger saddle bag, neither of which are terribly desirable.

3. You would be surprised how much heat a fiver gives off. Its special paper, you know.

4. Lighten up dude.

I'm treating this post with air (or Co2) of levity, hence my smiley. I just reckon you're a bit mad suggesting canisters are a faff. I carry 1 or 2 plus a minimpump, and find it less of a faff than using a minipump to get a road tire to 120psi - hence my assumption that you have a frame pump. If you have the time and patience/ability to get a tire to 120psi with a pocketpump then Chapeau to you sir. Of course if you ride some fat knobbly mtb tires at 40psi then, well you have my condolences!

itboffin

Clever Pun wrote:

itboffin wrote:

jashburnham wrote:

itboffin wrote:

jashburnham wrote:

Always carry a pump as well as gas. I use a pump to get a bit of air into the new tube - makes fitting easier. I run 700x23 and a 16gm canister will fill those beautifully.

who rattled your cage :evil:

Right, that's it. I'm heading up north - time to rustle your herd.

(I consider anywhere North of Watford to be "The North")

Tut tut I live in the South West far South of Watford & London

no you don't... not proper job west country

Well Fulham SW6 at least

Mrs ITB is a Wiltshire lass

always_tyred

I would be ashamed, to the point of quitting cycling entirely, if I was ever caught by another cyclist, or another person, even another mammal (including small rodents), producing a pair of latex gloves from my back pocket for the purposes of repairing a flat.

As a female, you MIGHT be able to continue cycling after this confession, but in order to verify this, we may need a poll....."Do you use latex gloves to protect your delicate hands when you repair a puncture or do you think its just a bit too metrosexual? Y/N"

If it comes out more than 10% "yes" then there would be no immediate requirement to take up another sport.

il_principe

Always Tyred wrote:

I would be ashamed, to the point of quitting cycling entirely, if I was ever caught by another cyclist, or another person, even another mammal (including small rodents), producing a pair of latex gloves from my back pocket for the purposes of repairing a flat.

As a female, you MIGHT be able to continue cycling after this confession, but in order to verify this, we may need a poll....."Do you use latex gloves to protect your delicate hands when you repair a puncture or do you think its just a bit too metrosexual? Y/N"

If it comes out more than 10% "yes" then there would be no immediate requirement to take up another sport.

I'd be ashamed if the inside and outside of my cycling gloves were so covered in grease that everything I touched got smeared! I learnt this the hard way after fixing a chain on the way to my girlfriends - I had no latex gloves so used bare hands and my (black) winter gloves. Got to her place and promtly smeared grease on her door, took gloves off in a panic forgetting that my hands were greasy too, cue mass greasy smearage and one very unhappy missus. Latex gloves aren't about protecting me, more about protecting my kit and other peoples stuff! Anyway, I'm a post-metrosexual dontchknow.

itboffin

Always Tyred wrote:

I would be ashamed, to the point of quitting cycling entirely, if I was ever caught by another cyclist, or another person, even another mammal (including small rodents), producing a pair of latex gloves from my back pocket for the purposes of repairing a flat.

As a female, you MIGHT be able to continue cycling after this confession, but in order to verify this, we may need a poll....."Do you use latex gloves to protect your delicate hands when you repair a puncture or do you think its just a bit too metrosexual? Y/N"

If it comes out more than 10% "yes" then there would be no immediate requirement to take up another sport.

+1 on the gloves, I like mine slightly too tight.

PS. you're okay with skin tight Lycra though?

greg66_tri_v2.0

Always Tyred wrote:

2. Who said anything about a frame pump? You need to carry a pump anyway - I can't imagine anyone actually relying on gas cannisters. I used to use them for a life jacket and, well, I only ever regarded that life jacket as a "legal compliance" gesture and I didn't replace the gas cannister monthly as asvised. Do they actually bleed flat that fast? Who knows, but I wouldn't want to find out at the side of a road if that's all I have. So, you have to be able to pump the tyre up anyway, so you have to have a pump, and if you have a pump, why have the pfaff of canisters as well? You either add them to the back pocket, or have a bigger saddle bag, neither of which are terribly desirable.

Eh?

I never carry a pump, and always rely on CO2. Who advises replacing them monthly because they bleed? Are we talking about the same thing? The ones I use are made of metal,a nd you puncture a hole in the neck of the cannister before using them. Gas doesn't seep out of a closed metal container much, or at all.

I ram the following into a TopPeak Micro (the smallest one they do: co2 cannisters (2), inners (2); tyre levers (2), set of allen keys, co2 adapter, multitool. And a CC and a £20 note if I think I'll need them.

Embrace your inner recklessness. Ditch the pump. Pumps are not big, and they're not clever.

linsen

If I could be bothered to set up a poll about metrosexual nonsense then I would.
Better to finish a job with clean hands if you have the option, I would have thought.
Stop being so obstreperous, AT

maybe I can be bothered... watch this space

il_principe

linsen wrote:

If I could be bothered to set up a poll about metrosexual nonsense then I would.
Better to finish a job with clean hands if you have the option, I would have thought.
Stop being so obstreperous, AT

maybe I can be bothered... watch this space

I love that word.