Wheel truing grief.
My Racing 3s need truing a bit. So I try and do it myself on the bike but can't unscrew /screw some of the spokes and end end up making matters worse. So I take them to an LBS and they reveal that most of the nipples are completely seized up with Locktite. You can actually see the Loctite coming through to the inside of the rim if you look through the valve hole with a torch. It probably isn't real Loctite but some other compound.
Apparently the only way to do it is to cut all the spokes out and rebuild the wheel not using large quantities of Loctite so they become serviceable. Do Campag think you just throw them away when the they get a bit buckled? I think those days are over.
Or the LBS is wrong and there is away round it. Otherwise it looks like I'm just going to have to put up with the knocking every time I brake.
The wheels were new in June, so I'm also wondering about free replacements.
Apparently the only way to do it is to cut all the spokes out and rebuild the wheel not using large quantities of Loctite so they become serviceable. Do Campag think you just throw them away when the they get a bit buckled? I think those days are over.
Or the LBS is wrong and there is away round it. Otherwise it looks like I'm just going to have to put up with the knocking every time I brake.
The wheels were new in June, so I'm also wondering about free replacements.
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Hmmm. You could really struggle there. If you can't break the seal the threadlock has formed on your threads without damaging the spokes/nipples then I think you may well have to snip your spokes.
How have you tried to undo the nipples?
If you've not tried it already, you could try taking the tyre, tube and rim tape off and get a long handled flat bladed screwdriver on the head of the nipple where it sits inside the rim. Give it some welly. If you start rounding the heads of the nipples then give up! But by giving it some leverage you just might be able to break the seal the threadlock has made and get them to shift.0 -
I am completely sympathetic with your plight of trying to true you wheels a bit and making it worse. If I had to guess I would say that lower spoke count wheels(less than 32)
are more difficult to get true than their higher spoke count cousins, but that's just my guessing. I would say that unless someone offers you a solution to the seized loctite
and you have a truing stand and a spoke tension gauge that you may end up with more serious trouble than you already have. You may even void whatever warranty came with the wheels. If they are still under warranty, return them, or trust what the shop tells you and get them redone or wait and see if any other ideas come along on the post.
Best of luck. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Dennis Noward0 -
dennisn wrote:I am completely sympathetic with your plight of trying to true you wheels a bit and making it worse. If I had to guess I would say that lower spoke count wheels(less than 32)
are more difficult to get true than their higher spoke count cousins, but that's just my guessing. I would say that unless someone offers you a solution to the seized loctite
and you have a truing stand and a spoke tension gauge that you may end up with more serious trouble than you already have. You may even void whatever warranty came with the wheels. If they are still under warranty, return them, or trust what the shop tells you and get them redone or wait and see if any other ideas come along on the post.
Best of luck. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Dennis Noward
Buckled wheels aren't covered under warranty.0 -
bogussocialworker wrote:Hmmm. You could really struggle there. If you can't break the seal the threadlock has formed on your threads without damaging the spokes/nipples then I think you may well have to snip your spokes.
How have you tried to undo the nipples?
If you've not tried it already, you could try taking the tyre, tube and rim tape off and get a long handled flat bladed screwdriver on the head of the nipple where it sits inside the rim. Give it some welly. If you start rounding the heads of the nipples then give up! But by giving it some leverage you just might be able to break the seal the threadlock has made and get them to shift.[/quote
These rims don't have rim tape they have a false bottom and the nipples are put in with a magnetic device.0 -
Vivid wrote:dennisn wrote:I am completely sympathetic with your plight of trying to true you wheels a bit and making it worse. If I had to guess I would say that lower spoke count wheels(less than 32)
are more difficult to get true than their higher spoke count cousins, but that's just my guessing. I would say that unless someone offers you a solution to the seized loctite
and you have a truing stand and a spoke tension gauge that you may end up with more serious trouble than you already have. You may even void whatever warranty came with the wheels. If they are still under warranty, return them, or trust what the shop tells you and get them redone or wait and see if any other ideas come along on the post.
Best of luck. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Dennis Noward
Buckled wheels aren't covered under warranty.
But badly made ones might.0 -
try warming the threads up a bit. Boiling water maybe ,then unscrewing.0
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Yup - heat will soften the threadlock - try using a hot air gun. Also get a decent, workshop grade spoke key for extra leverage without rounding the spokes.Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..0
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I will try heat. How about touching the nipple with a soldering iron?0
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wilwil wrote:I will try heat. How about touching the nipple with a soldering iron?
Whatever floats your boat...0 -
andrewgturnbull wrote:wilwil wrote:I will try heat. How about touching the nipple with a soldering iron?
Whatever floats your boat...
I was wondering who would go for that one.0
