Sore back - what do you do?
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biondino wrote:So you got to go home early, in a warm car, and you're complaining? Jeez, some people
I'm presently in a state of dulled pain having swiped a mate's prescription painkillers left over after some yucky operation and allied them to a bottle of white wine (I've had two health care semi professionals agree that booze works as ananesthetic and a muscle relaxant).
But even through that miasma, Biondino, I'm happy to report that bunking off with a bad back is a lot like making love to a beautiful woman.
You get that tell tale stiffness first thing in the morning. You go in, but you realize that you just can't hack it, so you have to pull out. You ask a mate to help you. It hurts, but its for the best.
He gets you home, and you get to lie down, drinking fine wines and Belgium chocolates that you would otherwise have wasted. And in the morning you wake up even stiffer than ever.0 -
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Whoa there I work in the trade (physio) and don't normally mix work with pleasure but GLEBUS is completely wrong so I have to reply.
The facts the sufferer injured his bacj doing an unusal activity. by the sounds of it there are no leg symptoms so therefore no nerve or disc pathology. (occassionally the lower back joints can refer as far as the knee but its complicated so I will leave it for now.
The plan Ibuprofen is OK if not asthmatic or have gut trouble( always read the leaflet) At this atge local heat is good for muscle spasm as is regular normal movement. No problem cycling if not too uncomfortable. acopule of swims may help if missing exercise fix. Vast majority of this type of low back pain gets bettr within 6 weeks DO NOT TAKE BED REST..
nerve stertches have a role we call them nerve mobilsing should not be unconfortable at this early stage of the process.
Hope it helps
Dave
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lost_in_thought wrote:Nerve stretches? Stretching nerves? Nerves?
I think deeply unpleasant may be an understatement. :shock:
Yes, it is a bit yuck.
Hope you are enjoying the Svedish meatyballs. If you fly a lot I have a great frequent flyer site for you to burn more time.
But bikes. Parlee make beautiful bikes. They make custom and semi custom through Mosquito in Islington and (I think) a guy called Barry who runs an outlet called Bespoke Bikes in London somewhere. Someone else to look at is Nick Crumpton at Crumpton bikes. He gas quite a waiting list, IIRC.0 -
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Oh good god, someone pour coffee on this man's keyboard.glebrus wrote:glebrus wrote:linsen wrote:I have a niggly pain right in my back, in the middle, very low down. Got to work okay but now my bendiness is severely restricted and my legs didn't want to go round very quickly on the way in.
I'm inclined to just carry on regardless and hope it goes away (especially in this lovely weather
), but I don't want to break myself.
What would you do?
This can be very serious unfortunately.
Refrain from any sport or physical activity until the pain completely goes away.
Meanwhile don't do any stretching, yoga etc. Especially avoid any twisting movements in your spine or lower back.
If you choose ride bicycle, reduce it to the minimum and use very low gear.
Allocate sufficient time for sleep.
Consult as many doctors as you can and research the problem.
If it comes to you and you want to overcome it, you'll need to educate yourself a lot.
The long-term solution will be healthy lifestyle, diet and correct physical activity, swimming, cycling. Also correct working postures and sleeping postures. But be careful, physical activity can be very harmful under certain conditions.
Been through this. Not a piece of cake.
UPD1 Also avoid lifting weights until you know how to do it correctly. Including lifting/carrying your bicycle. Roll it rather than carry. Also watch if your mounting on the bicycle overstrethes your back. Tilt the bicycle when mounting.
Check if your saddle is too high. Lowering it won't hurt.
UPD2 I'm not a doctor. However I wouldn't rely on forum discussions re this matter.
UPD3 No, do not take bed rest. Movement is good and necessary. Just keep it easy for your back.0 -
Greg66 wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:Nerve stretches? Stretching nerves? Nerves?
I think deeply unpleasant may be an understatement. :shock:
Yes, it is a bit yuck.
Hope you are enjoying the Svedish meatyballs. If you fly a lot I have a great frequent flyer site for you to burn more time.
Sveden was f***ing freezing, wandering around office buildings in the snow, but fun, and there are now a few salmon sides in the fridge... also been to Paris and Barthelona thith week patht.
And nothing to gold on the BA exec club in 9 months... so a fair bit! A frequent flyer site would be fun - I can vent about my minor irritations...Greg66 wrote:But bikes. Parlee make beautiful bikes. They make custom and semi custom through Mosquito in Islington and (I think) a guy called Barry who runs an outlet called Bespoke Bikes in London somewhere. Someone else to look at is Nick Crumpton at Crumpton bikes. He gas quite a waiting list, IIRC.
Parlee, eh? On the litht... a voyage to Epic is on the cards for next weekend to do some serious test-riding... I'm still liking the look of the Viner. But buying on looks alone is not the done thing... so I will check out these shops. I'm in no hurry...
And you have PM0 -
Always Tyred wrote:Oh good god, someone pour coffee on this man's keyboard.
Done. Sorry for inconvenience.0 -
Are you me? I'm not sure I tore a cartilage, but I sure was determined having flown all the way to Canada to bugger my knee skiing, I've cycled with a broken arm, concussion and with a separated shoulder (not at the same time).Greg66 wrote:Always Tyred wrote:I googled nerve stretching. It pulled up loads of pictures of people stretching their muscles, but with the word "nerve" put in the place of "muscle". Strikes me as (muscle) stretches used to relieve pressure on certain nerves, called colloquially "nerve stretches" and thereafter jumped on by a all the "wellness" zealots and interpreted literally.
Anyone care to tell me I'm wrong?
A picture is worth a thousand words, but somethings it can't convey.
Stretching a muscle is a curiously masocistic pleasure. You pull and the muscle resists, but stretches out after a few stretches.
The nerves coming off you lower spinal cord are about as thick as you finger. You try to stretch and they burn. In a hideously localized way. And they fire pain like fireworks everywhere they go.
I've played rugby with a broken arm, skied with a twisted knee and torn cartlidge, and skied after a crash that left me unable to move my right arm.
Nerve stretches make me grind my molars and want to dry retch with pain. I'm not exaggerating, I promise.
Its a misnomer, is all. Anything that involves stretching to relieve pressure on nerves is necessarily going to put pressure on them while you do it.
If you are into curiously masocistic pleasure, have you tried trigger point therapy? I don't know if there is any scientific basis to it, but having someone prod a knot in your back with their elbow and about 90% of their bodyweright is pretty good.
We should start a thread for "sports undertaken with serious injuries".0 -
Hi guys. I've just been to see a physio with pain down my right leg. She seems to think it is caused by a minor disk problem in my lower back, and gave me some excercises to do - once an hour, lying down, so much mirth at work. But to get to the point, the physio thought it was being made much worse by sitting down too much, especially sitting in the car!
She said cycling, running and swimming are all OK, but then spoiled it by saying that I must run 'gently' and cycle in an 'upright position'; not sure if these things are possible!0 -
I've been through the mill on this topic (and a successful operation after 2 years of pain and procrastination). The first thing is that it might settle down within a short time - doctors know not to touch a bad back until the symptoms are persistent (we're talking months if not years). Secondly, if it's still bad after a week or so, get specialist advice from a medically trained physio. They can at least help to be precise about your symptoms. You might find this difficult on our allegedly wonderful NHS so be prepared to pay some wonga.
Your age is also a big factor (40~60 is prime-time for disc issues to present themselves). Strengthening and stretching exercises are well worth the time as long as the problem is soft tissue and not a lumbar disc. One aspect of a bad back is poor structural strength. Biking is generally good for backs, but, as others have said, make sure your bike is properly set up so you don't over-stretch. And if you've been pushing hard on the drops, ease up and flex your back into a concave position to relax the muscles around the lower back.
If this problem lasts for more than a week, don't ignore it - get professional help.
- JimW
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Dear all,
Well, I stopped moaning and kept riding and all pretty much back to normal (odd twinge but I can MTFU with the best of you - I've given birth)
Greg66 how are you?Emerging from under a big black cloud. All help welcome0 -
Bagman wrote:linsen wrote:Dear all,
Well, I stopped moaning and kept riding and all pretty much back to normal (odd twinge but I can MTFU with the best of you - I've given birth)
Greg66 how are you?
I've heard that can smart a bit
Hmm. When I rang a friend to let him know I'd had the baby, he asked how big she was. When I replied "6lb12" he said "mm, comfortable then...."Emerging from under a big black cloud. All help welcome0 -
linsen wrote:Bagman wrote:linsen wrote:Dear all,
Well, I stopped moaning and kept riding and all pretty much back to normal (odd twinge but I can MTFU with the best of you - I've given birth)
Greg66 how are you?
I've heard that can smart a bit
Hmm. When I rang a friend to let him know I'd had the baby, he asked how big she was. When I replied "6lb12" he said "mm, comfortable then...." 0
