What has happend to De Rosa

nicensleazy
nicensleazy Posts: 2,310
edited November 2008 in The bottom bracket
Just wondering what's happend to De Rosa. You don't see people riding them anymore. Furthermore, my dealer has stated that he's stopping stocking them, as they just don't sell. I see quite a few shops were offering £500 off the Idol just to get them out the door!

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  • mrushton
    mrushton Posts: 5,182
    just not popular in the UK. V.popular in Italy but the competition is getting more fierce. At one time it was De Rosa vs.Colnago vs.Pinarello. Now you have Trek/Giant/Focus/Ridley/Look/Time/Specialized/Canyon/Wilier just to name a few.
    M.Rushton
  • rob_spedding
    rob_spedding Posts: 442
    The De Rosa King is alive and well and will be reviewed in the next issue of Cycling Plus!
    Rob Spedding, Editor, Cycling Plus
  • Slow Downcp
    Slow Downcp Posts: 3,041
    I wanted a De Rosa for ages - almost bought an Idol, but was put off after hearing about their disatrous after care service (which a lot of people apperntly have needed). Maybe others have been put of in a similar way?
    Carlsberg don't make cycle clothing, but if they did it would probably still not be as good as Assos
  • Slow Downcp
    Slow Downcp Posts: 3,041
    edited November 2008
    Double post
    Carlsberg don't make cycle clothing, but if they did it would probably still not be as good as Assos
  • Slow Downcp
    Slow Downcp Posts: 3,041
    edited November 2008
    Double Post
    Carlsberg don't make cycle clothing, but if they did it would probably still not be as good as Assos
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    edited November 2008
    Slow Downcp wrote:
    Their after sales service is very poor alledgedly, and you're likley to need it from what many people have said. I wanted a De Rosa for years, but wouldn't buy an Idol due to this.


    Are you saying that it's their frames that need after sales service? Not sure what sort of service after the sale that De Rosa itself could provide for a frame other than a new one,
    if you get one that's got a major problem? Or are you talking complete bikes? Even then I'm not sure how De Rosa can help. Would seem to me to be a shop problem for whomever you bought it from and they would go back to De Rosa if need be.

    Dennis Noward
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    dennisn wrote:
    Slow Downcp wrote:
    Their after sales service is very poor alledgedly, and you're likley to need it from what many people have said. I wanted a De Rosa for years, but wouldn't buy an Idol due to this.


    Are you saying that it's their frames that need after sales service? Not sure what sort of service after the sale that De Rosa itself could provide for a frame other than a new one
    if you get one that's got a major problem? Or are you talking complete bikes?

    Dennis Noward

    The frames have been known to have a habit of breaking.
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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    redddraggon wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    Slow Downcp wrote:
    Their after sales service is very poor alledgedly, and you're likley to need it from what many people have said. I wanted a De Rosa for years, but wouldn't buy an Idol due to this.


    Are you saying that it's their frames that need after sales service? Not sure what sort of service after the sale that De Rosa itself could provide for a frame other than a new one
    if you get one that's got a major problem? Or are you talking complete bikes?

    Dennis Noward

    The frames have been known to have a habit of breaking.

    Well, so much for my De Rosa and electric DA. Maybe I'll go get that really, really, red,
    chromed lugs and fork, steel Cinelli I saw at the local shop. Maybe that will hold up under
    my old fat *ss.

    Dennis Noward
  • Slow Downcp
    Slow Downcp Posts: 3,041
    dennisn wrote:
    Slow Downcp wrote:
    Their after sales service is very poor alledgedly, and you're likley to need it from what many people have said. I wanted a De Rosa for years, but wouldn't buy an Idol due to this.


    Are you saying that it's their frames that need after sales service? Not sure what sort of service after the sale that De Rosa itself could provide for a frame other than a new one,
    if you get one that's got a major problem? Or are you talking complete bikes? Even then I'm not sure how De Rosa can help. Would seem to me to be a shop problem for whomever you bought it from and they would go back to De Rosa if need be.

    Dennis Noward

    When I looked around for advice, a number of people seemed to be having problems with frames breaking, paint peeling etc. I agree my contract would be with the supplying dealer, but it seems that De Rosa don't offer fantastic back up to the dealer network. That was enough to put me off.
    Carlsberg don't make cycle clothing, but if they did it would probably still not be as good as Assos
  • nicensleazy
    nicensleazy Posts: 2,310
    The Idol is a lovely looking frame. But, difficult to live with. They have had probplems with the intgrated seat screw. Also, their UK importer is not very helpful at all!
  • Slow Downcp
    Slow Downcp Posts: 3,041
    nicensleazy wrote:
    The Idol is a lovely looking frame. But, difficult to live with. They have had probplems with the intgrated seat screw. Also, their UK importer is not very helpful at all!

    I think you may have answered you own original question!
    Carlsberg don't make cycle clothing, but if they did it would probably still not be as good as Assos
  • magliaceleste
    magliaceleste Posts: 748
    I think the biggest problem is that they are overpriced (and mostly ugly, apart from the King 3)
  • mrushton
    mrushton Posts: 5,182
    magliaceleste wrote:
    I think the biggest problem is that they are overpriced (and mostly ugly, apart from the King 3)

    there is the protos but really the King is their main bike but for that money you are in Prince territory poss.Colnago EPS or maybe a custom Viner
    M.Rushton
  • vermooten
    vermooten Posts: 2,697
    My De Rosa Team has been a great bike since I bought it in 2005.Not sure it was worth twice the cost of an equivalent Trek but still, it looks great and the ride quality is superb. So go and buy one, right?
    You just have to ride like you never have to breathe again.

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  • ivancarlos
    ivancarlos Posts: 1,034
    magliaceleste wrote:
    I think the biggest problem is that they are overpriced (and mostly ugly, apart from the King 3)

    I've always hankered after a 'neo primato'. Classic good looks!
    I have pain!
  • mercsport
    mercsport Posts: 664
    magliaceleste wrote:
    I think the biggest problem is that they are overpriced (and mostly ugly, apart from the King 3)

    If not a flippant remark I'd suggest that's plain wrong : ' beauty is in the eye of the beholder' and all that . Classic geometry for the most part . Where's the 'ugly' element ? The 'bought in' parts ? The gruppo ? The wheels ?

    Overpriced ? No more so than any other quality Italian frame methinks .

    I think they look great . Every De Rosa I've ever seen has been the epitome of thoughtful taste coupled with a flawless finish . And the De Rosa downtube lettering looks ever so superior . They look a 'cut above' to everything else on the road to my eyes , including Colnago and Pinarello etc..

    No , I don't have one . Just the usual desires , y'know . :P

    P.S. In the local races I've seen in Italy they're very popular too and look as cool as only the Italians can look . Should you ever catch a Ryanair to Milan you'll discover it will dump you at Bergamo ( a bonus : what a fine town that is ! ) and on the bus bombing down the autostrada to Milan proper you might spy the De Rosa factory on the right . Easier at night actually as it has an Illuminated sign .
    "Lick My Decals Off, Baby"
  • magliaceleste
    magliaceleste Posts: 748
    mercsport wrote:
    If not a flippant remark I'd suggest that's plain wrong : ' beauty is in the eye of the beholder' and all that ..

    Flippant, perhaps. Wrong, no that's just your opinion.

    I think the current range is generally ugly (except King 3) in particular the Idol (the integrated seatpost with curved toptube really doesn't help). IMO the De Rosa logo is terrible too. Not on about gruppos or anything else, just the frame. They are I will admit, finished well.

    Overpriced, yes they are here in the UK at least. You can get custom Viners for less than the King!

    (edit: I'm ignoring steel bikes)
  • Chip \'oyler
    Chip \'oyler Posts: 2,323
    How much is the King?
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  • mathi
    mathi Posts: 110
    I wouldnt say Derosa s are ugly , i think there is a lot worse :?
    Yes they are pricey but what isnt in the UK
  • Lysander
    Lysander Posts: 349
    Call me stupid if you like but I've just ordered a King 3 frame. Yes they are more expensive than a Viner Maxima but I just love the understated cool that De Rosa have cultivated.
  • magliaceleste
    magliaceleste Posts: 748
    Lysander wrote:
    Call me stupid if you like but I've just ordered a King 3 frame. Yes they are more expensive than a Viner Maxima but I just love the understated cool that De Rosa have cultivated.

    I wouldn't do that, the King is a very nice bike. Hope you enjoy it. :)
  • magliaceleste
    magliaceleste Posts: 748
    mathi wrote:
    I wouldnt say Derosa s are ugly , i think there is a lot worse :?
    Yes they are pricey but what isnt in the UK

    Yes you're right I'm mostly just poking fun. I've just checked the 2009 catalogue I have here and they're not that ugly :wink:
  • nicensleazy
    nicensleazy Posts: 2,310
    I wouls take Pinarello over De Rosa anyday!

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