Crap Hollywood remakes of fantastic foreign movies
afx237vi
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Why? Just why?
I just read that Steven Spielberg is going to remake the Korean film Oldboy and it's going to star Will Smith. If you've ever seen Oldboy then you already know how utterly horrific that sounds.
Why can't people just leave good films as they are instead of removing all the things that made them good in the first place and covering them in sickly Hollywood gloss?
I guess Will Smith is going to have a Burger King instead of eating a live octopus.
I just read that Steven Spielberg is going to remake the Korean film Oldboy and it's going to star Will Smith. If you've ever seen Oldboy then you already know how utterly horrific that sounds.
Why can't people just leave good films as they are instead of removing all the things that made them good in the first place and covering them in sickly Hollywood gloss?
I guess Will Smith is going to have a Burger King instead of eating a live octopus.
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Wonder if they will do the scene with the claw hammer? The Grudge is the other obvious candidate. SMG...stunning as Buffy, she was painful in that though!
Vanilla Sky - they must have known they were onto a winner with Penelope Cruz - did the Spanish original and followed up with the Cruise effort...Spanish original was still the better one though.
Spanish films in general, pretty good. Drifting off subject slightly...Intacto and any of the Almodovar films, never a waste of your time. Superb.0 -
afx237vi wrote:Why can't people just leave good films as they are instead of removing all the things that made them good in the first place and covering them in sickly Hollywood gloss?
Dunno. They seem to be good at ruining perfectly good films over in Hollywood - a fair few British pictures have had that treatment, too; Alfie, The Italian Job, Get Carter (which means from the iconic early films of Michael Caine's career, they've only Zulu and The Ipcress File left to utterly spoil beyond repair), The Ladykillers [1], and so on.
David
[1] By and large they've fortunately left Ealing's output well alone. What they'd do to The Titfield Thunderbolt doesn't bear thinking about.
"It is not enough merely to win; others must lose." - Gore Vidal0 -
Who hasn't seen/heard eddie izzard on hollywood messing up great films, it is brilliant...0
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DavidBelcher wrote:afx237vi wrote:Why can't people just leave good films as they are instead of removing all the things that made them good in the first place and covering them in sickly Hollywood gloss?
Dunno. They seem to be good at ruining perfectly good films over in Hollywood - a fair few British pictures have had that treatment, too; Alfie, The Italian Job, Get Carter (which means from the iconic early films of Michael Caine's career, they've only Zulu and The Ipcress File left to utterly spoil beyond repair), The Ladykillers [1], and so on.
David
[1] By and large they've fortunately left Ealing's output well alone. What they'd do to The Titfield Thunderbolt doesn't bear thinking about.
Yeah good point. Shoulda just called the thread Crap Hollywood Remakes, full stop.0 -
They've buggered up a load of good films, mostly French
La Femme Nikita fantastic gritty film remade as The Assassin with bridget Fonda....rubbish, rubbish, rubbish.
Wim Wenders' 1987 film "Wings of Desire" ("Der Himmel über Berlin") remade as City Of Angels.
The French thriller "Taxi," written by Luc Besson remade as Taxi a very rubbish film starring Queen Latifah.
"Trois Hommes et un Couffin" remade as Three Men and A Baby.
I could go on Solaris (Orginal Solaris), The Ring, The Birdcage(La Cage aux Folles), Just Visiting(Les Visiteurs).
To go against the theme of the thread....The Magnificent Seven (The Seven Samurai) is quite a good film.'Hello to Jason Isaacs'0 -
schlepcycling wrote:To go against the theme of the thread....The Magnificent Seven (The Seven Samurai) is quite a good film.
Ocean's Eleven is another of those rare remakes that's either good in its own right or, in this case, better than the original, but since both are Hollwood pictures anyroad, it's perhaps slightly off-topic.
David"It is not enough merely to win; others must lose." - Gore Vidal0 -
I would like to add:-
The Wicker Man - rubbish cheesy/safe American version
The Adventures of Prescilla Queen of the Desert - can't remember the name of the remake, don't want to either!0 -
Not foreign, but possibly the crappiest remake of all time: Gus Van Sant's remake of Pyscho, using all the same shots and camera angles as the Hitchcock version.
Again... why?0 -
The Wicker Man - rubbish cheesy/safe American version
Oh god!!! I forgot about the appalling Nick Cage remake truly truly dreadful
'Hello to Jason Isaacs'0 -
schlepcycling wrote:I could go on Solaris (Orginal Solaris), The Ring, The Birdcage(La Cage aux Folles), Just Visiting(Les Visiteurs)
I quite like the Hollywood version of Ring, mind you the other remake Naomi Watts was in, King Kong, made me sadface.0 -
ride_whenever wrote:Who hasn't seen/heard eddie izzard on hollywood messing up great films, it is brilliant...
Izzard hasn't been averse to suckling at the Hollywood teat when it suits his bank balance.'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'0 -
Hollywood has made loads of remakes of Kurosawa movies, and almost all have sucked - the exceptions are Magnificent Seven (still not as good as Seven Samurai) and Fistful of Dollars (almost as good as the awesome Yojimbo). Aparently, Spielberg is producing (Jim Sheridan directing) a remake of Ikiru (for those who haven't seen it, one of the truly greatest films ever made), and Scorsese is producing a remake of High and Low. The Sheridan one sounds horrible, but High and Low is a great thriller, so might be a half decent remake. But there isn't a director alive who can do action sequences like Kurosawa, so it all seems a bit pointless.
Speaking of Scorsese, his version of Infermal Affairs wasn't bad, but not as good as the original (the stupid romantic sub-plot he added was terrible).
I can't imagine any remake of the great Korean movies as being any good - I think they are remaking the Host too - the Koreans just seem to be able to make movies that are nasty and wonderful at the same time, Hollywood always cops out.0 -
Best foreign film ever, Man BItes Dog. If you havent seen it you havent lived, a true classic. :twisted:0
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The Japanese film, Shall We Dansu?, is fantastic. The Hollywood version with JLo/Richard Gere is dire.0
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i thought redoing friday 13th was bad enough.
listening to the first bit of trailer from the movie seven pounds (will smitth) "in seven days God created the world"
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Actually they have remade The Ladykillers*. The Coen Bros did it in 2004, starring Tom Hanks.DavidBelcher wrote:Dunno. They seem to be good at ruining perfectly good films over in Hollywood - a fair few British pictures have had that treatment, too; Alfie, The Italian Job, Get Carter (which means from the iconic early films of Michael Caine's career, they've only Zulu and The Ipcress File left to utterly spoil beyond repair), The Ladykillers [1], and so on.
David
[1] By and large they've fortunately left Ealing's output well alone. What they'd do to The Titfield Thunderbolt doesn't bear thinking about.
A good enough movie on its own, but not a patch on the original
*I've no idea why that link won't work.A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject - Churchill0 -
Crapaud wrote:
Actually they have remade The Ladykillers*. The Coen Bros did it in 2004, starring Tom Hanks.DavidBelcher wrote:Dunno. They seem to be good at ruining perfectly good films over in Hollywood - a fair few British pictures have had that treatment, too; Alfie, The Italian Job, Get Carter (which means from the iconic early films of Michael Caine's career, they've only Zulu and The Ipcress File left to utterly spoil beyond repair), The Ladykillers [1], and so on.
David
[1] By and large they've fortunately left Ealing's output well alone. What they'd do to The Titfield Thunderbolt doesn't bear thinking about.
A good enough movie on its own, but not a patch on the original
*I've no idea why that link won't work.
I quite like The Ladykillers remake, but then I've not seen the original :oops:
I refuse to watch the remake of Taxi http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0316732/. The original is excellent if you like unbelievable upgrades of Peugeot cars! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0152930/ http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3BRlKRkZZAo0 -
Why would they not remake movies?
They have a script in place, know what its about, can do it with american actors in an accent americans can understand and which will sell well in american cinema and be seen as part of american culture, where 'foreign' films that are subtitled will sink without a trace, however good they are.
Ultimately if its a commercial proposition and a good one then it happens, just as cartoons have been remade as movies decades later (think flint-stones) and series like the adams family, get smart or bewitched. There are only so many ideas out there after all.
And anyway, why limit the topic to merely films? Why not other forms of entertainment like TV soaps and the reality gunge that makes turning the TV off such a pleasure?'Twas Mulga Bill, from Eaglehawk, that caught the cycling craze....0 -
Flight Of The Phoenix - Hollywood at it's worst, a truly dire remake of a great film.0
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Get Carter.
Infernal Affairs (remade as The Departed; not crap but inferior to the original)0 -
One of my favourite films is 'The Day of the Jackal' with Edward Fox (Frederick Forsyth novel)- a superb, brilliantly paced film! ...and absolutely horrendously butchered by Hollywood with Bruce Willis and titled 'Jackal'
In the original there's a scene where Edward Fox is adjusting the sight on his precision swiss made rifle taking shots at a water melon hanging from a tree...
....I caught the Hollywood one the other day on TV and think it had Bruce Willis sitting in some sort of giant crappy looking anti-aircraft-laser-gun-thing somewhere shooting off Jack Black's limbs - terrible! terrible! :roll:0 -
Day of the Jackal was a classic - the remake was rubbish - just another Bruce Willis Die Hard reprise
The Italian Job - classic Michael Caine - the American version bore no resemblance
The Ladykillers - brilliant Alec Guiness/Peter Sellers - Tom Hanks is good but the movie was tripe compared to the original 0 -
mhuk wrote:Get Carter.
As the original incarnation of Jack Carter would've put it; "it's a big film, but it's in bad shape"
David"It is not enough merely to win; others must lose." - Gore Vidal0 -
The Hitcher's been remade twice, perhaps not a classic to start with but no improvements on the original.0
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Solaris.
*contraversial!*Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.0 -
I've heard rumours they are remaking Bienvenue chez les Ch'ti's in America and that doesn't bear thinking about, Taxi was bad enough (so bad, in fact, they've had to make three more French versions just to erase the memory)0
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The Vanishing - Original European version directed by George Sluizer , fantastic .
The Vanishing - Hollywood version directed by George Sluizer , not very good .
( The novel was written by Tim Krabbe , author of The Rider )The UCI are Clowns and Fools0
