Heart Rate

lost_in_thought

Now then, I used a HRM in the gym last night, my resting pulse is apparently about 65-70, which is not bad but not great, but as soon as I start exercising at the level I usually aim for, it's up to 180+ pretty quickly, and stays there, then drops off very quickly once I'm done exercisinginging

Is this too high? Is this normal? What's the range? Different for fat burning or fitness? A load of twaddle?

Oh and I'm 25.

What's your heart rate like?

STEFANOS4784

Mine starts about 80, to much beer and fags methinks, i don't bother with the hrm anymore i know i'm exersising when my legs burn and i'm puffing like a steamtrain 8)

damage36

Hey LiT,

My resting pulse is about 54, when I get out on the biike and just go slowly along its about 135-145bpm. If I'm interval training or going fast uphill its 175-185.

There are a lot of factors that contribute to your HR, but 180 isn't unnatural or dangerous, especially for smaller people (how tall are you?). And how hard were u working in the gym, doing what?
When I did weights etc it was around 150bpm during the sets.

'Fat burning' is gibberish btw. Its just low intensity which is good for a) going a long way or b) recovering or c) not being so sweaty.

damage36

STEFANOS4784 wrote:

Mine starts about 80, to much beer and fags methinks, i don't bother with the hrm anymore i know i'm exersising when my legs burn and i'm puffing like a steamtrain 8)

resting HR is 80 :shock:

HEALTHY.

chromehoof

lost_in_thought wrote:

Now then, I used a HRM in the gym last night, my resting pulse is apparently about 65-70, which is not bad but not great, but as soon as I start exercising at the level I usually aim for, it's up to 180+ pretty quickly, and stays there, then drops off very quickly once I'm done exercisinginging

Is this too high? Is this normal? What's the range? Different for fat burning or fitness? A load of twaddle?

Oh and I'm 25.

What's your heart rate like?

theres no straight answer really. It depends what you're doing. A HR of 180 is fine for you at your age if you're cardio training. It would be unsustainable to keep it at that rate for a prolonged period of time though (and would probably be unwise to do so).

Its useful to learn the different HR zones. They vary depending on your size, age and weight (and also how fit you are), but principly are the same for everyone. You have your resting zone, then your fat burning zone, then your cardio zone. Above the cardio zone you hit a level where you will deplete your body's resources way too quickly.

In cycling terms its all about riding as efficiently as you can. Its about staying as long as you can in the fat burning zone. Of course, thats not always possible (hills, etc), and in training you need to push your limits so your body will be able when it does happen.

As for your 180, well it depends on what your goals in the gym are. If they're fitness related, then fine. If they're weight-control related, then its probably overkill.

And like anything, if you feel ok after and recover quickly, then you have nothing to worry about.

always_tyred

Agree with Damad36 about the "fat burning zone". When I was rowing I learned that this doesn't even kick in until you've been going for about an hour and its a "what's twice nothing?" kind of effect. You burn fat by having a high metabolism generally, particularly after excersise. So getting your HR up twice a day is about perfect.

When I was in my early mid 20's my max HR was well over 200. I recall a 206 reading during a VO2max test. It drops as you get fitter, oddly enough and, of course, when you get older. Women's tend to be marginally higher. Like you, I found that I hardly had to do anything and my HR shot up and stayed there. Kind of like the pulminary version of keeping a high cadence.

For the record, mine now tops out at about 187 and resting HR is low 50's rising to about 150bpm after coffee.

STEFANOS4784

http://www.maxim.co.uk/fitness/asktheex ... tness.html



Says here 60-80 rhr is normal range, phew just about in there, need a fag to calm down now :arrow:

fonty1978

I aim to be in between 146-162 [as defined by my computer] my resting HR is round about 60 bpm. During my morning commute my heart rate tends to be off the scale as during the cilmbs i'm spending about 10 mins at 170 bpm [My max HR is 180 bpm :roll: ].

Not sure i could keep that sort of pace up for long though :oops:

chuckcork

My heart rate is usually airly steady cruising in the 145-155 range, but obviously the harder I push beyond that the higher it goes.

Trying to catch up to younger guys on a club run a few months ago, who got maybe 3-400 metres away from me, I hit I think 173BPM. I asked them what they got to in their sprint and it was something like 206!

Usually I don't get above 173bpm as a rule and pushing harder doesn't get anything other than tire dlegs, but my last club ride going up some hills I hit 180 and then 179 a bit later.

Took a while for the remainder of the club to catch up I recall...

itboffin

damage36 wrote:

STEFANOS4784 wrote:

Mine starts about 80, to much beer and fags methinks, i don't bother with the hrm anymore i know i'm exersising when my legs burn and i'm puffing like a steamtrain 8)

resting HR is 80 :shock:

HEALTHY.

My resting HR is in the 90s :shock: :shock:
I've seen it over 200 when training :shock: :shock: :shock: and I am "considerably" older than LiTs, before anyone says it NO not twice her age.

At first I was very worried but according to my doctor i'm very healthy, also my Max HR drops very quickly to around my resting rate which I'm told is also a good thing.

I dread to think what it was when I was younger.

linsen

My resting heart rate is mid to high 50s (female age 35) and what it goes up to depends on what I do. Cross-trainer - 150 or so, rower, same. Running - up to 180 (and I feel like death), cycling - similar (and I feel great!). Average HR on the way to work (50 minute ride) is 156 generally.

always_tyred

I've got to be honest, I never understood the "safety" aspect of high heart rates. So long as there is nothing wrong with you, there is a safety feature called "tiredness" that kicks in and prevents any problems.

For sure, excersising at about 90% of maxMR is going to be right on the cusp of being anaerobic and its going to be sustainable for 30-40 mins at the most. But I really don't think that the "lawyer stickers" on cardio equipment should be any concern. They should actually read "if you aren't feeling breathless on this machine, you aren't using it correctly".

If you try really hard - for example doing intervals - its possible to induce nausea which isn't dangeous, just unpleasant. And some people never feel it. Its also possible to go hypoglycemic and feel faint, but again that is no worse than bonking on a ride. Probably a lot less bad, actually, given you don't have traffic to worry about.

And there's no chance of getting hypothermia at the gym either. :shock:

damage36

linsen wrote:

My resting heart rate is mid to high 50s (female age 35) and what it goes up to depends on what I do. Cross-trainer - 150 or so, rower, same. Running - up to 180 (and I feel like death), cycling - similar (and I feel great!). Average HR on the way to work (50 minute ride) is 156 generally.

Snap. Apart from the female age 35 bit.
I hope you're proud to have the fitness of a 20 year old adonis.. ahem :arrow:

always_tyred

itboffin wrote:

damage36 wrote:

STEFANOS4784 wrote:

Mine starts about 80, to much beer and fags methinks, i don't bother with the hrm anymore i know i'm exersising when my legs burn and i'm puffing like a steamtrain 8)

resting HR is 80 :shock:

HEALTHY.

My resting HR is in the 90s :shock: :shock:
I've seen it over 200 when training :shock: :shock: :shock: and I am "considerably" older than LiTs, before anyone says it NO not twice her age.

At first I was very worried but according to my doctor i'm very healthy, also my Max HR drops very quickly to around my resting rate which I'm told is also a good thing.

I dread to think what it was when I was younger.

I struggle to believe that your resting HR is actually that high. Try reading it a few mornings when you wake up. All sorts of things influence your HR - I wasn't joking about the caffeine effect (only the extent) - and even walking into the gym and taking a "resting" reading is really inaccurate.

biondino

Resting heart rate 54, max heart rate 194. I can easily go above 180 on a relatively short, hard spurt, and on somewhere like Box Hill I'll be holding 175 or so for 10 minutes. When I go out on long rides, though, I find that my average heart rate is inevitably around 130-135, though sometimes I do forget to take it off over lunch :oops:

itboffin

Always Tyred wrote:

itboffin wrote:

damage36 wrote:

STEFANOS4784 wrote:

Mine starts about 80, to much beer and fags methinks, i don't bother with the hrm anymore i know i'm exersising when my legs burn and i'm puffing like a steamtrain 8)

resting HR is 80 :shock:

HEALTHY.

My resting HR is in the 90s :shock: :shock:
I've seen it over 200 when training :shock: :shock: :shock: and I am "considerably" older than LiTs, before anyone says it NO not twice her age.

At first I was very worried but according to my doctor i'm very healthy, also my Max HR drops very quickly to around my resting rate which I'm told is also a good thing.

I dread to think what it was when I was younger.

I struggle to believe that your resting HR is actually that high. Try reading it a few mornings when you wake up. All sorts of things influence your HR - I wasn't joking about the caffeine effect (only the extent) - and even walking into the gym and taking a "resting" reading is really inaccurate.

It's true! 87 at the moment and i'm doing nought, I have three different HR devices all report within 5 BPM.

In fact if any of the original Morpeth attendees can cast their minds back we talking about this very subject, as I had just bought a cheap HR watch and assumed it was broken.

always_tyred

biondino wrote:

Resting heart rate 54, max heart rate 194. I can easily go above 180 on a relatively short, hard spurt, and on somewhere like Box Hill I'll be holding 175 or so for 10 minutes. When I go out on long rides, though, I find that my average heart rate is inevitably around 130-135, though sometimes I do forget to take it off over lunch :oops:

It takes you 10 minutes to get up Box Hill? You suck.




(Only joking - about 3 years since I was there and I have no idea how long the zig zags take - but I do recall it to be a dangerous place to go, because of that bike shop over the top. Last time I was there I accidentally came back with £200 Sidi shoes.)

STEFANOS4784

itboffin wrote:

Always Tyred wrote:

itboffin wrote:

damage36 wrote:

STEFANOS4784 wrote:

Mine starts about 80, to much beer and fags methinks, i don't bother with the hrm anymore i know i'm exersising when my legs burn and i'm puffing like a steamtrain 8)

resting HR is 80 :shock:

HEALTHY.

My resting HR is in the 90s :shock: :shock:
I've seen it over 200 when training :shock: :shock: :shock: and I am "considerably" older than LiTs, before anyone says it NO not twice her age.

At first I was very worried but according to my doctor i'm very healthy, also my Max HR drops very quickly to around my resting rate which I'm told is also a good thing.

I dread to think what it was when I was younger.

I struggle to believe that your resting HR is actually that high. Try reading it a few mornings when you wake up. All sorts of things influence your HR - I wasn't joking about the caffeine effect (only the extent) - and even walking into the gym and taking a "resting" reading is really inaccurate.

It's true! 87 at the moment and i'm doing nought, I have three different HR devices all report within 5 BPM.

In fact if any of the original Morpeth attendees can cast their minds back we talking about this very subject, as I had just bought a cheap HR watch and assumed it was broken.

+1

mine is 82 and i'm sat in front of apc and have been for about half hour, have had a strong coffee dunnop if that makes a difference :?

P.s i'm 24 and cycle at least 20 miles a day, smoke probably between 10-15 rollups a day and am quite tall and skinny. I would't worry to much about heart rates unless you're really one of those types who wear skin suits and aero helmets to shave milliseconds off of 25 mile t.t's. imo




Edit: i took my hr by using a stopwatch and taking my pulse so i know it's accurate

greg66_tri_v2.0

itboffin wrote:

My resting HR is in the 90s :shock: :shock:
I've seen it over 200 when training :shock: :shock: :shock: and I am "considerably" older than LiTs, before anyone says it NO not twice her age.

At first I was very worried but according to my doctor i'm very healthy, also my Max HR drops very quickly to around my resting rate which I'm told is also a good thing.

I dread to think what it was when I was younger.

JAY-ZUZ!! :shock:

90, resting? :shock:

200 under load? :shock:

Ker-rist, you must have a healthy heart just to still be alive.

RHR is around 48-50. If I put some effort into (non-commuting) exercise, it will come down to around 42. SCR'ing pulled it down to 38 for a while.

Max depends on the activity: running > cycling > swimming. I haven't tried a max HR test for a few years, but IIRC, I last did one about ten years ago and maxed at 188 running, c 176 cycling.

The running test I did is a bunch of fun. Get some paper and a pencil. Set the treadmill to a brisk pace and warm up for 20-25 mins. Take your HR and write it down. Increase speed by (say) 0.2 kmh and hold for 1 min, then write down the HR (all done while running).

Repeat until you hit the treadmill's max speed, and if you're still going, increase the gradient 1% every minute, until you or the treadmill break.

Writing down is the tricky bit.

always_tyred

itboffin wrote:

It's true! 87 at the moment and i'm doing nought, I have three different HR devices all report within 5 BPM.

In fact if any of the original Morpeth attendees can cast their minds back we talking about this very subject, as I had just bought a cheap HR watch and assumed it was broken.

I'm not doubting the reading - and some people are just oddities - but maybe people aren't comparing like with like. Its dead easy to get HR to jump 10 beats simply by staring at a beautiful..... bike.

itboffin

Yep not worried about it any more, for the record walking downstairs and putting my shoes on HR is now 97BPM

Just so you don't think I'm totally weirdo walking around the house with a HR monitor I am actually getting ready to go for a bike ride

itboffin

Greg66 perhaps "my mother was a hamster and my father smelt of elderberries"

hamster facts:

hate rate 275-425 BPM
life span 2-4 years

Oh dear!

lost_in_thought

Hmmmm, well this is all very interesting!

I used the HRM whilst on the cross-trainer in the gym, I use one of their pre-programmed thingies, then another one, totalling about 40 minutes.

My HR was always coming up as HIGH HEART RATE YOU ARE GOING TO EXPLODE AND DIE with the little grippy heart rate things, hence why I borrowed a HRM. It climbed up pretty quickly, then stayed around 180-185 for the entire workout, going up a bit to 190+ when I tried really hard to sprint for 5 minutes or so.

I didn't feel bad, I don't consider myself to be working hard enough unless I'm out of breath and sweating like an inappropriate simile, so it's normal for me. By the time I was stretched and on the weights, my HR was back at about 90-100, on the pootle home it was about the same.

Oh and I'm 5'7-ish.

Unfortunately I had to give the HRM back when I got home.

I would do your treadmill test, but I've been advised against running on them due to knee injuries... However I'm apparently fine to jog. Sense made? I think not.

greg66_tri_v2.0

itboffin wrote:

life span 2-4 years

Oh dear!

I dunno. You're beating the odds so far

cjcp

HRM presently busted, so not sure what the figures are of late, but resting HR is usually around low 40s. Max HR depends on running or cycling.

Cycling is mid-170s.

With running, it's topped out at 195-odd I think, but that was nearly three years ago, just after Christmas (and laden with much food and wine) and going up a hill, having not run for a good while. I think it'll max out around 180.

Must get that HR fixed.

plapping

My resting heart rate that first thing in the morning before a run or cycle is on average 45 BPM (Male aged 39). On a run I aim for 135-160 BPM, On a spin in the gym 140-150 BPM, On a long ride 130-160 BPM.

pbt150

Male, 22yo, 154lb, 5'10", rower/cyclist.

RHR sitting in the office with a coffee 54, normally I'm around 45ish. Did a VO2max test on a rowing machine a couple of weeks ago and my max HR was 208 at exhaustion. Also did a blood lactate test at the same time to try and work out training intensity bands.

When we got the results back there were wattages (splits) and suggested heart-rates, but when I went to the gym to do 'UT2' (ie the level where I produce little lactate - 2mmol), my heart rate was about 160-170 for nearly 90 minutes, which is around the 80-85% level, rather than the 136-156 I was told to aim for at this intensity. Next time I went I tried to work off my heart-rate monitor and I had to really focus on NOT pushing hard in order to keep my heart rate this low.

If you're casually in the gym I'd say go as hard as you're comfortable with for the length of your workout. For training it might be worth paying a bit more attention and not going really hard for every session or else you'll burn out.

always_tyred

pbt150 wrote:

Male, 22yo, 154lb, 5'10", rower/cyclist.

RHR sitting in the office with a coffee 54, normally I'm around 45ish. Did a VO2max test on a rowing machine a couple of weeks ago and my max HR was 208 at exhaustion. Also did a blood lactate test at the same time to try and work out training intensity bands.

When we got the results back there were wattages (splits) and suggested heart-rates, but when I went to the gym to do 'UT2' (ie the level where I produce little lactate - 2mmol), my heart rate was about 160-170 for nearly 90 minutes, which is around the 80-85% level, rather than the 136-156 I was told to aim for at this intensity. Next time I went I tried to work off my heart-rate monitor and I had to really focus on NOT pushing hard in order to keep my heart rate this low.

If you're casually in the gym I'd say go as hard as you're comfortable with for the length of your workout. For training it might be worth paying a bit more attention and not going really hard for every session or else you'll burn out.

Its all down hill from here. You are already past your sexual peak. :twisted:

plapping

Always Tyred wrote:

pbt150 wrote:

Male, 22yo, 154lb, 5'10", rower/cyclist.

RHR sitting in the office with a coffee 54, normally I'm around 45ish. Did a VO2max test on a rowing machine a couple of weeks ago and my max HR was 208 at exhaustion. Also did a blood lactate test at the same time to try and work out training intensity bands.

When we got the results back there were wattages (splits) and suggested heart-rates, but when I went to the gym to do 'UT2' (ie the level where I produce little lactate - 2mmol), my heart rate was about 160-170 for nearly 90 minutes, which is around the 80-85% level, rather than the 136-156 I was told to aim for at this intensity. Next time I went I tried to work off my heart-rate monitor and I had to really focus on NOT pushing hard in order to keep my heart rate this low.

If you're casually in the gym I'd say go as hard as you're comfortable with for the length of your workout. For training it might be worth paying a bit more attention and not going really hard for every session or else you'll burn out.

Its all down hill from here. You are already past your sexual peak. :twisted:

Some of us never peaked in the first place! :shock:

always_tyred

plapping wrote:

Always Tyred wrote:

pbt150 wrote:

Male, 22yo, 154lb, 5'10", rower/cyclist.

RHR sitting in the office with a coffee 54, normally I'm around 45ish. Did a VO2max test on a rowing machine a couple of weeks ago and my max HR was 208 at exhaustion. Also did a blood lactate test at the same time to try and work out training intensity bands.

When we got the results back there were wattages (splits) and suggested heart-rates, but when I went to the gym to do 'UT2' (ie the level where I produce little lactate - 2mmol), my heart rate was about 160-170 for nearly 90 minutes, which is around the 80-85% level, rather than the 136-156 I was told to aim for at this intensity. Next time I went I tried to work off my heart-rate monitor and I had to really focus on NOT pushing hard in order to keep my heart rate this low.

If you're casually in the gym I'd say go as hard as you're comfortable with for the length of your workout. For training it might be worth paying a bit more attention and not going really hard for every session or else you'll burn out.

Its all down hill from here. You are already past your sexual peak. :twisted:

Some of us never peaked in the first place! :shock:

***** OFF TOPIC - OFF TOPIC - OFF TOPIC *******

redddraggon

damage36 wrote:

My resting pulse is about 54, when I get out on the biike and just go slowly along its about 135-145bpm. If I'm interval training or going fast uphill its 175-185.

Spot on for me, I'm 21. I normally aim to keep to 160+ while cycling unless I'm taking it easy.