are all dual pivots equal in performance?

maddog 2
maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
edited October 2008 in Workshop
I need some and, to me, they look very similar

eg 105s (£37 at CRC)


look very similar to Ultegra (£55)


now I acknowledge that this is a 'how long is a piece of string question' to a large extent but can anyone detect any significant differences in use, weight or finish, which would suggest spending more is worth it?

Any comments welcome.
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  • SCR Pedro
    SCR Pedro Posts: 912
    Hey there,

    If I were in your position and the callipers came without pads, I would buy the 105 set and spend the difference on a good set of pads. The cables are also just as important. I changed the cables over on my bike a couple of days ago, and the difference is unbelievable.

    I certainly wouldn't spend more for the Ultegra set.

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  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    ta pedro. I'm going to run ceramic pads I think as the rims are ceramic, although I'm not 100% on that yet. I might have a play around with the standard ones first to see how they perform.

    Anyone use Tiagra, as they're even cheaper....
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  • I have Tiagra equivalent but with slightly longer reach on my SCR. Seem fine to me but I did change the front pads to get a bit more bite. Still got the lever with multiple stops to adjust the cable position.

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  • meagain
    meagain Posts: 2,331
    Tangent but....only once ran ceramic pads on ceramic rims (XTR Vs on Cross Max, but fundamentals hold). The squealing was so bad that they were dangerous - I didn't dare apply the stoppers from embarassment!
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  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    I currently run ceramic pads on ceramic OPs (with Avid ultimate Vs) and they're fine. Superb perforrmance wet and dry, and a clear step up from standard pads and rims

    But the ceramic wheels are going on the missus's bike, on a flat-bar build based on a standard road frame, hence the dual pivots.

    I think I'll probably go for 105s. CRC has the older versions for £30 a pair, which is a good deal.
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  • I just picked up a set of these babies:


    They have the nicest quick release mechanism I've ever seen on a brake. It has these lovely little clicks... more what you'd find on an expensive camera... can't wait to use them but I don't get my bike for another 2 weeks. :(