Anyone speak Italian?

iainf72
iainf72 Posts: 15,784
edited October 2008 in Pro race
Do you know how to say "We don't want to know"?
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.

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  • deal
    deal Posts: 857
    no italian here im afraid

    ''Each organizer takes care of its own event,'' Zomegnan said.

    It seems that is exactly what they are doing, at the expense of cycling as a whole.
  • Coriander
    Coriander Posts: 1,326
    iainf72 wrote:
    Do you know how to say "We don't want to know"?

    Non vogliamo sapere.


    Why do you want to know that?


    Edit: have only just now noticed your link and read it. Duh!
  • Noodley
    Noodley Posts: 1,725
    How about the Italian for "it would be far too difficult to work out the last time there was a clean stage/GC winner"
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    But if the Giro does it, why not the Dauphiné, or the Tour of Switzerland, or Paris-Nice, or all the Spring classics? Hell, why stop this year... let's retest all of last year's samples too!

    It's not in the interest of RCS to retest all their samples. Firstly, it'll cost a hell of a lot of money, and secondly it'll damage the reputation of their race. The Tour is the only race in the world, rightly or wrongly, that has both the financial clout and the motivation to go after the dopers.
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    I agree with afx. Although Zomegnan sounds dodgy in this interview, the larger question it begs is not about dodgy Italians and rightful Frenchmen, but about how to afford testing on the scale of the Tour de France and Olympics in other races. The retesting by the Tour de France is impressive, and apparently effective; we'd want that throughout the year. And perhaps the Giro could afford to do so, but not many other organizers. Only a central organization, whether the UCI, WADA, or whatever accepted organization, can make sure that riders do not get away throughout the year with what they will not get away wth during the Tour de France.
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    I want to know. I said back in May that the Giro didn't interest me, it was going to be festival of doping and that many winners would be dubious. If Zomegnan continues the ostrich technique, more viewers will slip away.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Top story on Velonews

    LA gets invite to Giro
    Next story down

    Giro won't retest samples

    How I snickered.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    afx237vi wrote:
    But if the Giro does it, why not the Dauphiné, or the Tour of Switzerland, or Paris-Nice, or all the Spring classics? Hell, why stop this year... let's retest all of last year's samples too!.

    well i'm game
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Patrick1.0
    Patrick1.0 Posts: 290
    afx237vi wrote:
    But if the Giro does it, why not the Dauphiné, or the Tour of Switzerland, or Paris-Nice, or all the Spring classics? Hell, why stop this year... let's retest all of last year's samples too!

    Why not?
  • leguape
    leguape Posts: 986
    FJS wrote:
    I agree with afx. Although Zomegnan sounds dodgy in this interview, the larger question it begs is not about dodgy Italians and rightful Frenchmen, but about how to afford testing on the scale of the Tour de France and Olympics in other races. The retesting by the Tour de France is impressive, and apparently effective; we'd want that throughout the year. And perhaps the Giro could afford to do so, but not many other organizers. Only a central organization, whether the UCI, WADA, or whatever accepted organization, can make sure that riders do not get away throughout the year with what they will not get away wth during the Tour de France.

    The testing for the TDF was done by AFLD which is a french state agency with funding direct from government ins't it? which might be why ASO could afford it, because it was already paid for.
    http://www.atomicecho.com/cycling
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Patrick1.0 wrote:
    afx237vi wrote:
    But if the Giro does it, why not the Dauphiné, or the Tour of Switzerland, or Paris-Nice, or all the Spring classics? Hell, why stop this year... let's retest all of last year's samples too!

    Why not?

    Who's going to pay for it? The races have already done what they're obligated to do under UCI and WADA rules. Why should the races or the national anti-doping agencies incur extra expense by retesting samples they've already declared as clean.

    The Tour de France can do it because they know they'll get the headlines. A smaller race does it, they'll get two or three lines in the specialist cycling press and zero coverage in the wider media. They stand to gain nothing.
  • aurelio_-_banned
    aurelio_-_banned Posts: 1,317
    leguape wrote:
    The testing for the TDF was done by AFLD which is a french state agency with funding direct from government ins't it? which might be why ASO could afford it, because it was already paid for.
    Of course, next year the testing will be back under the control of the UCI. :(

    Perhaps the real reason Patrice Clerc was ousted was that the UCI wanted to ensure their icon of `global cycling` won't be embarrassed by any positive tests. :wink:
  • de_sisti
    de_sisti Posts: 1,283
    iainf72 wrote:
    Do you know how to say "We don't want to know"?

    Try the google translate page. :idea:

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