New brakes - Post mount, or holders with replaceable pads?

daniel_b
daniel_b Posts: 11,955
edited October 2008 in Commuting chat
Chaps and chapesses,

I do have lots of bikes, but i have never had to replace any pads - not quite sure how that works, but there you go :oops:

I've swapped over an Avid brake system onto my gf's Ridgeback, but that's about it.

So on my carrera commuter, it has threaded post type brakes, like this:
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So I can see I can buy ones the same and just swap them out.

But then I see the cartridge style ones, like these that have the replacement pad option:
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What I can't get my head around, is how the pure pad replacements are attached, do you glue them in, do they have pins, do they clip in - what's the crack?!

I've had a fairly good google around this morning, and can't seem to find any definite guides on what the differences are, and what makes one better than the other.

So, what are the advantages and pitfalls of both types, and in a nutshell, what should I go for?

I'm making big assumptions here, but I'm going to assume the holders with replacement pads might be easier and cheaper because:
A: you don't have to buy the whole setup
B: You don't have to re-adjust the gap/clearance to the rim everytime you change

Post and pad included:
A: Thicker pad, so last longer?
B: Perhaps the longevity cancels out the extra cost?

Am I in the right ballpark?

Not overly worried about out and out braking performance, might go for one better set, and one cheaper setup, and put the better ones on both fronts (of mine and my gf's bikes), and the cheapies on the rears - My current set have lasted about 1200 miles, so similar would be good.

So..... Vote now!

Oh yeh, and please tell me why :D

Cheers

Dan
Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
Scott CR1 SL 12
Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
Scott Foil 18

Comments

  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    held in by a pin. Look on the leading side (long part before the post) in your picture and you will just make out the pin. (small silver dot).
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,955
    Ah I think I see, so a pair of replacement pads will come with a pair of these pins, and you have to push them through the pads and out the other side?

    What's the trick for getting these pins out when you need to change, or do you just lever the pad out as it's not needed anymore?

    Is the installation potentially a 'many bent pins and lots of swearwords' situation?

    Dan
    Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
    Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
    Scott CR1 SL 12
    Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
    Scott Foil 18
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    the pads go in and out from one side. the other end is closed so that they do not get pulled out when braking.

    the pins do not hold the pads in place. More like just stop the pads falling out when stopping on a hill :wink:

    removal of pins, fingers of steel or pliers.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,955
    Thankyou very much Nicklouse,

    rather dissapointed with the lack of votes :cry:

    What do other people on here use and recommend, or like me, have you never had to change your brakes before......

    Dan
    Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
    Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
    Scott CR1 SL 12
    Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
    Scott Foil 18
  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    I think it's likely that most people will have only experienced one type of brake pad, like me.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,955
    biondino wrote:
    I think it's likely that most people will have only experienced one type of brake pad, like me.

    And that type would be.....? :D
    Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
    Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
    Scott CR1 SL 12
    Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
    Scott Foil 18
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    there is no difference in them.

    the good thing about the cartridge type is you do not need to reset the holders when you change the pads. the bad thing is that if you apply a lo of force in the wrong direction the pin may fail.

    which is why i dont have cartridge type on the big bmx.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • Using replaceable pads gives a metal backing to the pad giving them more strength which can stop the pads from flexing especially when worn