Cycling banned from the Olympics?

gabriel959
gabriel959 Posts: 4,227
edited October 2008 in Pro race
Just read it on the Cycling Weekly website. That would be a huge blow to UK medal hopes for 2012!


http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/IOC_official_wants_cycling_dropped_from_Olympics_article_269486.html
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    I'm starting to wonder if it would help.....Something really has got to change, unfortunatly the olympics are so unimportant to pro road cycling it would make little difference

    It would affect the Track and MTBing far harder and they re not the ones with the problem!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Cumulonimbus
    Cumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    Have all sports done retrospective testing using the new test? :wink:
  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    They could have the desired effect by dropping the men's RR & TT, leaving the women's events and the track and BMX stuff.

    I still don't see why we have out-and-out pro sportsmen like footballers, tennis players, pro cyclists and, if they get their way, golfers in the Olympics.
  • Patrick1.0
    Patrick1.0 Posts: 290
    This is really bad. Cycling keeps taking major blows but I don't see many other sports catching the cheats. They're deluded if they think this problem is only apparent in cycling. Doping goes on in all the major sports and yet cycling is the only one that gets a hammering like this. Why not drop athletics and all the other sports from the Olympics because there are dopers in them? Is that an answer?
  • jocksyboy
    jocksyboy Posts: 135
    it's just the Germans whinging again and again and again. Did they even show the TDF this year?
    When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. ~H.G. Wells
  • skavanagh.bikeradar
    skavanagh.bikeradar Posts: 1,097
    Don't worry, I'm sure Pat Mcquaid is about to step in and deal with the situation.
  • nickwill
    nickwill Posts: 2,735
    Cycling is potentially being punished for dealing with its problems head on. Maybe it should bury its head in the sand like tennis, football, rowing athletics etc. Does anyone really believe in the 100 and 200m performances on the athletics track. Whatever happened to all the Puerto linked non cyclists? Weren't certain prominent footballers and tennis players purportedly linked? There are certainly some extraordinary physiques (both male and female), to be seen on the tennis courts!
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  • Cunobelin
    Cunobelin Posts: 11,792
    Lets just consider this for a moment........


    Ae we simply banning cycling or are we going to ban the sports of all of the 26 positive drugs tests within the Beijing olymoics.

    As for out of Olympics testing ......

    Well that's sailing, horse riding, most field and track events and weight lifting to name but a few.

    In fact by 2012 we shold be left with Conkers and Tiddley-winks!
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  • skavanagh.bikeradar
    skavanagh.bikeradar Posts: 1,097
    It'd be cheaper to hold the games if that's what is left. Upside to everything!

    I agree cycling is singled out but it's upto the UCI to rebutt this not go mute and wait for the wotsit to hit the fan. It's ASO and WADA that are advancing things not the governing body.
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    This is the same Thomas Bach that a short time ago claimed that the Beijing games had the most stringent doping tests ever carried out. Given that Beijing caught significantly more field athletes doping than cyclists, I presume he'll ban them too, as Cunobellin noted

    Its probably no coincidence that Bach is one of the candidates tipped to take over from IOC president, Jacques Rogges. A high media profile would be of great benefit to someone in his position.

    As long as cycling can generate a net revenue stream for the IOC, it'll stay.
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    LangerDan wrote:
    This is the same Thomas Bach that a short time ago claimed that the Beijing games had the most stringent doping tests ever carried out. Given that Beijing caught significantly more field athletes doping than cyclists, I presume he'll ban them too, as Cunobellin noted

    And if cycling is so filthy, why didn't they get any of the pro's in Beijing? Same ones who'd just come out of the Tour. Oh wait, could it be because the tests were rubbish?

    This is just another one of those bizzare reactions my German friends seem to specialise in.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    Cunobelin wrote:
    In fact by 2012 we shold be left with Conkers and Tiddley-winks!

    Well I juice myself up before partaking in either of those sports......
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • stagehopper
    stagehopper Posts: 1,593
    They (IOC/WADA) haven't tested any of the samples at the Olympics for CERA - Bach is now calling on the UCI to test the cycling samples which were taken.
    @stagehopper
  • Tom Butcher
    Tom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    I hope the answer is when they decide to test all the other endurance sports. Yes of course we want to clean up the sport - but if the threat of expulsion from the Olympics is hanging over us it's time we stood up for ourselves a bit more.
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  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    They should test for ALL sports. EPO and its variants is a very important part of all doping athletes training programme. Just look at Dwaine Chambers.
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    I bet that German chap wishes he'd kept him big fat gob shut now.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Meds1962
    Meds1962 Posts: 391
    The Sports section of BBC News online is saying now that 5000 Bejing samples are going to be tested for cera.
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  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    There are probably several lab technicians considering a change of career rather than be faced with 5000 bottles of p!ss.
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    According to L'Equipe, it will re-testing of blood samples:

    http://www.lequipe.fr/Jo/breves2008/200 ... a_Dev.html
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    this is great..
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • hevipedal
    hevipedal Posts: 2,475
    Of course other sports don't cheat do they?
    Sprinters - throwers?
    Hevipedal
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    going to be painful if the brit velodrome team test positive

    but going to be really really good if they don't
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • stagehopper
    stagehopper Posts: 1,593
    We may be seeing a rush of surprise retirements across the world as the news filters through.
    @stagehopper
  • chuckcork
    chuckcork Posts: 1,471
    Possibly the only thing that would change the doping culture is to maybe put in a little tough lough, chinese style.

    Y'know, public executions in a stadium....hey wait, they've got this brand new stadium in Beijing that isn't being used! Maybe they could use that to take care of the Olympic cheats? Be kind of ironic, and again you could use each purpose built arena for each doper caught.

    Cyclists in the cycling arena, swimmers ritually drowned in the pool and so on.

    Of course noone would ever, ever take medication for a cold or flu again, just in case, but thats a downside we can live with!
    'Twas Mulga Bill, from Eaglehawk, that caught the cycling craze....
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    Though the Great Wall circuit was quite a good one this year, but generally the Olympic RR is a bit of a processional bore.

    So, dump the RRs and TTs, re-instate the Kilo and give the ladies more track events they surely deserve.
    Un uomo solo al commando
  • Patrick1.0
    Patrick1.0 Posts: 290
    Le Commentateur wrote:
    Though the Great Wall circuit was quite a good one this year, but generally the Olympic RR is a bit of a processional bore.

    So, dump the RRs and TTs

    I really hope that doesn't happen.
  • Richrd2205
    Richrd2205 Posts: 1,267
    chuckcork wrote:
    Possibly the only thing that would change the doping culture is to maybe put in a little tough lough, chinese style.

    Y'know, public executions in a stadium....hey wait, they've got this brand new stadium in Beijing that isn't being used! Maybe they could use that to take care of the Olympic cheats? Be kind of ironic, and again you could use each purpose built arena for each doper caught.

    Cyclists in the cycling arena, swimmers ritually drowned in the pool and so on.

    Of course noone would ever, ever take medication for a cold or flu again, just in case, but thats a downside we can live with!
    So the only thing that'd change doping culture in cycling is to move to a system that has been proven not to work? Have you considered a job at the UCI?
    Your post is quite funny apart from the huge hole in your logic.
    Stiffer sentances do precisely nothing to deter rule breakers, the fear of detection does a lot. Huge amounts of research demonstrates this. I rather wish people would make a vague attempt to inform themselves before offering opinions.
  • Cunobelin
    Cunobelin Posts: 11,792
    ddraver wrote:
    Cunobelin wrote:
    In fact by 2012 we shold be left with Conkers and Tiddley-winks!

    Well I juice myself up before partaking in either of those sports......


    I remember reading somewhere that the "sport" with the highest ratio of positive tests is Crown Green Bowling!

    Lots of beta blockers!
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    He that buys flesh buys many bones.
    He that buys eggs buys many shells,
    But he that buys good beer buys nothing else.</b></i>
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  • stagehopper
    stagehopper Posts: 1,593
    Bach seems to have retreated a bit from wanting all cycling banned to suggesting it's the mens road race which is the problem and might need to be expunged.
    @stagehopper
  • Patrick1.0
    Patrick1.0 Posts: 290
    Richrd2205 wrote:
    chuckcork wrote:
    Possibly the only thing that would change the doping culture is to maybe put in a little tough lough, chinese style.

    Y'know, public executions in a stadium....hey wait, they've got this brand new stadium in Beijing that isn't being used! Maybe they could use that to take care of the Olympic cheats? Be kind of ironic, and again you could use each purpose built arena for each doper caught.

    Cyclists in the cycling arena, swimmers ritually drowned in the pool and so on.

    Of course noone would ever, ever take medication for a cold or flu again, just in case, but thats a downside we can live with!
    So the only thing that'd change doping culture in cycling is to move to a system that has been proven not to work? Have you considered a job at the UCI?
    Your post is quite funny apart from the huge hole in your logic.
    Stiffer sentances do precisely nothing to deter rule breakers, the fear of detection does a lot. Huge amounts of research demonstrates this. I rather wish people would make a vague attempt to inform themselves before offering opinions.


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