Enough is enough - ban them for life
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LIFE BANS for me.
Get them all to sign a doc saying they will accept a life ban if they cheat. Simple, no court arguments afterwards.
After all these are "professionals" so an accident of too much cold medicine just does not cut it.
Stop dancing around the edges and get tough.I used to play Hockey but now I ride.... one day like the wind0 -
Schmidthouse wrote:Not at all Dennis, just as I can call you a puerile and sarcastic fool who seems happy mouthing off on forums without actually expressing his opinion.
I named two people - both are PROVEN dopers. I also called them and all other dopers morons and lying cheats. Which is my prerogative – just as I am sure you will now reply that its your prerogative to post more name calling.
Anyway, I am sure on your happy sun filled place in the world it makes you feel adequate and at peace - I am going to cease this stupid banter with you.
God forbid you should tell us all your thoughts on the ongoing doping issue or anything else related to cycling.
Oh yeah, Oh yeah, well, my dogs bigger than your dog.
Or how about , my dad can beat up your dad?
So take that.
Dennis Noward0 -
"God forbid you should tell us all your thoughts on the ongoing doping issue or anything else related to cycling."
Yet you seem perfectly happy, nay anxious, to tell us yours! I'm with Dennis on this one - WTF does it matter IN THE WIDER CONTEXT if some junk up in order to increase their income?
And .... who exactly DO you mean by "us"? All cyclists? The whole population? "Sport" ended the day "professionalism" was introduced; cycling didn't.d.j.
"Cancel my subscription to the resurrection."0 -
meagain wrote:"God forbid you should tell us all your thoughts on the ongoing doping issue or anything else related to cycling."
Yet you seem perfectly happy, nay anxious, to tell us yours! I'm with Dennis on this one - WTF does it matter IN THE WIDER CONTEXT if some junk up in order to increase their income?
And .... who exactly DO you mean by "us"? All cyclists? The whole population? "Sport" ended the day "professionalism" was introduced; cycling didn't.
You put it much better than I can. Well said.
Dennis Noward0 -
Isn't part of the problem a lack of uniformity?
The UCI are supposed to be the governing body yet the different national bodies seem able to impose their own variable penalties. All national federations should impose the same penalties.
Furthermore, its not universally an offence but a breach of rules. Uniformity and criminalisation for all nationalities, not that there's much hope of that.
A spell of incarceration alongside a 2 year ban, and a financial penalty, may take away some of the incentive to dope in the first place. But only if everyone agrees the same level of penalty.There's no such thing as too old.0 -
DAG on a bike wrote:
A spell of incarceration alongside a 2 year ban, and a financial penalty, may take away some of the incentive to dope in the first place. But only if everyone agrees the same level of penalty.
The incentive to dope is to be able to perform. If you cannot perform at the level that gets you a good pay off without doping then that's your incentive there. Look at St David - Good when on the gear, not really that good sans gear.
Penalty doesn't really matter - The AFLD's marvellous actions over the last couple of months will do more for the fight again doping than any extended penalties, fines or time in the comfy chair.
Penalities are just a punishment but they're not going to stop people if they believe they can get away with it.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
iainf72 wrote:DAG on a bike wrote:
A spell of incarceration alongside a 2 year ban, and a financial penalty, may take away some of the incentive to dope in the first place. But only if everyone agrees the same level of penalty.
The incentive to dope is to be able to perform. If you cannot perform at the level that gets you a good pay off without doping then that's your incentive there. Look at St David - Good when on the gear, not really that good sans gear.
Penalty doesn't really matter - The AFLD's marvellous actions over the last couple of months will do more for the fight again doping than any extended penalties, fines or time in the comfy chair.
Penalities are just a punishment but they're not going to stop people if they believe they can get away with it.
He'd still woop your ass0 -
Apologies for being a liberal wuss but I really think things have gone too far when you're locking people up for cheating at sport."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
@gietvangent0 -
Barry Roubaix wrote:He'd still woop your ass
At what?
If you mean riding a bike, I'm afraid a 70 year old with a heart condition would probably woop my ass.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0