Press Release from CSC about Frank Schleck

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  • doyler78
    doyler78 Posts: 1,951
    cougie wrote:
    Its not evidence that he didnt go through with it though.

    7 grand is a $hitload of money for nothing isnt it ?

    He and Andy were riding fantastically in the tour this year. After seeing the same kind of great riding from other legends such as Pantani and Ricco - I know where my money is going.

    :(

    And where do the stars of tomorrow come from. The Schleks have been touted as tour contenders for a few years now. At some point a rider has to make a breakthrough. Yeah you may well be right but without proof I will leave the speculation to yourselves I will just continue to believe in each performance until such times as somebody's brings me proof of something else.

    You might call that me sticking my head in the sand. I just call it fairness and equity. Everything isn't always as it may appear and when looking at all sorts of things in isolation you can come to conclusions which turn out to be unjustified.
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    I hope I'm wrong - its just that I've seen too many cheats over the past 25+ years.
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    I don't buy it - it stinks from here!
    These payments were before Puerto, therefore it was a point in time when they thought they were untouchable - the fact that he chose to wire it via a Swiss bank was a deliberate means to avoid suspicion. Why go to those means for an 'honest' business transaction?
    Fuentes is a gyneaocologist - under what grounds would a single professional cyclist need to contact him?
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • ElLawro
    ElLawro Posts: 59
    PauloBets wrote:
    It should be a 2 years ban for Frank Shlek...shoot cyclist powered by drugs...I have the feeling the true speed of these frauds is premier calendar to local 1st cat level yet this forum idolises them when they are on 5 different drugs and no more talented than you-a fact of near indentical DNA than your top regional 1st cat...BUT just can survive 700 mile weeks at 25mph in training pace through Fuentes and others. Almost all are cheats and liars IMO. Ban the rider for life

    Must be great in your world.........everything so cut and dried:-)
  • Bugly
    Bugly Posts: 520
    Monty Dog wrote:
    I don't buy it - it stinks from here!
    These payments were before Puerto, therefore it was a point in time when they thought they were untouchable - the fact that he chose to wire it via a Swiss bank was a deliberate means to avoid suspicion. Why go to those means for an 'honest' business transaction?
    Fuentes is a gyneaocologist - under what grounds would a single professional cyclist need to contact him?

    I dont know Andy Frankie may need a gyno - reading the transcript he may not dope but is just a stupid c***
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Boom Boom !! :D
  • ghost_rider
    ghost_rider Posts: 7
    What does 7 grand at a Gyno get you??? A gold plated ballsack? That's definitely a sub-prime investment IMO
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Circumstantially, this reeks. He tried to turn pro and eventually landed a contract with Italian minnows De Nardi but even there, the Tour contender lost his contract and ended up racing as an amateur in France again, where he was unimpressive. Within a short time he then went onto be a classics contender and Alpine stage winner, working with arch-doper Riis and his Cecchini entourage, where Riis has form for linking riders with Cecchini and onto Fuentes (Hamilton, Basso etc).

    With such a background, the press release is pure comedy, a farce. This is like Basso's "attempt at doping", only it's an attempt at information. Frank Schleck, if you can hear me, no one believes you.

    But this represents one of the problems in cycling, that people have their heads stuck so far up their backsides that they can't see the problems they make, that in a sport where few trust the ridiculous denials (my dog was ill, my mother in law needs EPO, attempted doping etc), it is time for honesty and credibility, not wild lies.
  • richard wants a baum
    richard wants a baum Posts: 744
    Well if he was doping a the TdF he was probably on CERA and by the looks of it if you were on that stuff they are going to get ya. Should know if anymore guys are going to get busted in the next couple of weeks.
    Take care of the luxuries and the necessites will take care of themselves.
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,718
    by the looks of elsewhere on the forum, it isn't going to be that long!
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Frank's excuse doesn't appear to have washed with the Lux ADA

    http://www.newspress.com/Top/Article/ar ... 4367450881
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    iainf72 wrote:
    Frank's excuse doesn't appear to have washed with the Lux ADA

    http://www.newspress.com/Top/Article/ar ... 4367450881
    What's even worse is he's become German!
  • leguape
    leguape Posts: 986
    Kléber wrote:
    Circumstantially, this reeks. He tried to turn pro and eventually landed a contract with Italian minnows De Nardi but even there, the Tour contender lost his contract and ended up racing as an amateur in France again, where he was unimpressive. Within a short time he then went onto be a classics contender and Alpine stage winner, working with arch-doper Riis and his Cecchini entourage, where Riis has form for linking riders with Cecchini and onto Fuentes (Hamilton, Basso etc).

    With such a background, the press release is pure comedy, a farce. This is like Basso's "attempt at doping", only it's an attempt at information. Frank Schleck, if you can hear me, no one believes you.

    But this represents one of the problems in cycling, that people have their heads stuck so far up their backsides that they can't see the problems they make, that in a sport where few trust the ridiculous denials (my dog was ill, my mother in law needs EPO, attempted doping etc), it is time for honesty and credibility, not wild lies.

    Went back to France and rode with VC Roubaix under the guidance of Cyril Guimard wasn't it? Didn't he say Frank's problem was his head rather than his ability? Then again there have been rumours about VC Roubaix...
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    No, it was the club in Orleans, where he seemingly got very few wins and was close to packing it in. VC Roubaix was Schleck Jnr, where Guimard said he'd looked after Hinault, Fignon and Lemond and that Andy Schleck was as good as them.
  • leguape
    leguape Posts: 986
    Kléber wrote:
    No, it was the club in Orleans, where he seemingly got very few wins and was close to packing it in. VC Roubaix was Schleck Jnr, where Guimard said he'd looked after Hinault, Fignon and Lemond and that Andy Schleck was as good as them.

    Ah my mistake. Then again Bjarne does have a remarkable record of revitalising the careers of riders who either in the twilight of a career or never got started on one.
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    I'd be careful of the spin. All those "he's motivational master" or "the army camps made me tough" quotes are fine but being put in contact with Cecchini and Dr Fuentes is going to revitalise your career far more than a 3 day boot camp.
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    So for the last 5 yrs I've been slogging around up to my @rse in mud with a load of squaddies for nothing every winter :?: :shock: :cry:
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  • leguape
    leguape Posts: 986
    Kléber wrote:
    I'd be careful of the spin. All those "he's motivational master" or "the army camps made me tough" quotes are fine but being put in contact with Cecchini and Dr Fuentes is going to revitalise your career far more than a 3 day boot camp.

    Hence the use of "remarkable" :wink:
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  • kourou
    kourou Posts: 40
    Re Frank saying only one payment on his account proves something - as a previous poster said, wouldn't most riders be paying in cash? In fact maybe not using bank transfers was the warning he got from close friends, rather than not using Fuentes? Who knows...

    Didn't Jaksche say something about Tony Rominger meeting Fuentes with a bag of cash that was alledgedly on behalf of Vino? Before the 2007 Tour I hasten to add - unfortunately in mainly German so many were surprised when Vino tested positive.

    Perhaps we should follow the paper trail from Schleck to his manager, and then see where his manager is sending money. That might prove interesting...

    I just looked for who the manager of Schleck was (Lombardi, the other candidate for amigo de birillo) and found my own post on this site. Forgot about that - doh. Rereading that thread, it seems kind of prescient... Put this latest revelation together with the German news report, and Schleck F is looking pretty shady in my view.

    http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=14899775

    More there on possible links from Schleck to Fuentes that came from some German site, but of course no hard evidence - just unnamed sources.
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    You don't pay Fuentes for advice on pedaling technique or coaching plans, he was nothing but a medic, the former Kelme team doctor and not a sport scientist. He was running a blood bank, not coaching riders.

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