pads - sintered or organic?

johnsav

as title!

nicklouse

sintered wet and muddy.

organic dry.

gthang

What if you had to chose one to be an all round pad? which would you go for?

Anonymous

i use sintered all of the time, loads of power and more reliable in my opinion than organic ones. i like ebc gold and particularly swissstop 9but they are pricey)

Dilker

I use Organic but with varied success, I've just been through a set of Avid pads in under 4 weeks... and at £14 a pop that's not cheap. I've just got four pairs for less than £20 from http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/index.ph ... c24142ecdf

So far I have no complaints... in front and back right now... 2 weeks still plenty of life left in em... at less than a fiver a time they can last 4 weeks and still they will save me money over the Avid ones. They also produce a Sintered version but had sold out when i bought them.

I'm checking every other day for the stock on the Sintered, i'll use them as things get messier...

P-Jay

Sintered for now to carry you through winter and switch to Organics in Spring.

I've used Superstar pads with varying sucess. Their quality control isn't the best. I've had ones with broken material and some where they seem to have rusted off the backs, also a pair I left in my damp Camlebak rusted and fell off the backing. I know that seems bad but I go through dozens of sets a year. The ones that look good in the pack are pretty good, semi-sintered I'd call them, organic with what looks to be like flakes of copper in them.

johnsav

so i take it organic pads are more prone to wear in the winter months from the wet conditions ?

Andy B

johnsav wrote:

so i take it organic pads are more prone to wear in the winter months from the wet conditions ?

yup

johnsav

haha, im so pleased i just bought some organic ones today then!
the guy in the LBS said they would be best and the sintered ones take a while to warm up... suposed to be a good shop.

Andy B

Organic pads have a softer compound, & will have a little more power, but wear out quicker, especially in the wet.

Sintered pads are a harder compound & will take a little longer to bed in & don't have quite as much power as organic pads, but last a lot longer in wet conditions.

Anonymous

sintered pads produce more heat than resin as well.

Dazzza

I use a semi sintered pad, works great all year round, made by quad i think.

andrewjoseph

a brand new set of organics lasted half way around (a very wet) Afan. mind you they were freebies from last years mayhem.

I use sintered all the time.

johnsav

il be keeping an eye on wear rates then!

SeanOrange

Went through a set of Superstar Avid Juicy organics in only half of a wet & gritty Dalby (about 16 miles! :shock: ). I'm also keeping a look out for the sintered ones when they come in stock & sent them an email yesterday to enquire when they would be back in stock. I've used only sintered in the past with no problems.

Anybody know about ceramic pads? I've seen them advertised on Ebay as replacement pads. Never seen them before this week. :?

ratty2k

3 sets in one ride (27 miler in the dark peak) 2 front and 1 rear set.
Have since changed to EBC gold pads, much better!

Bmjboy

Ok now Im worried, we're off to Afan at the end of Oct for 4 days (lets say 3 days riding)

I've got my stock Giant MPH pads in at the moment, with about a third remaining, and I have 2 pairs of Superstar standard pads ready to replace them.

Am I going to need more for a wet Wales over 3 days on the trails?

Dont want to get there and be in trouble!

ratty2k

I'm a big boy, and take more stoping than most, but its always advisable to carry at least a couple of spare sets... Not ridden Afan, so can't compare, but up in the Dark Peak, its basically grinding paste you are riding on/ thro! I dont think Afan is that gritty.

andrewjoseph

Riding around Afan can compare to the Dark peaks, there can be a lot of sandy mud around.

I've got my stock Giant MPH pads in at the moment, with about a third remaining, and I have 2 pairs of Superstar standard pads ready to replace them.

Am I going to need more for a wet Wales over 3 days on the trails?

Probably, though if you prepare them well they may last. Try heating the pads before use, this dries them and makes them harder. you may get more miles from them.

nicklouse

andrewjoseph wrote:

Probably, though if you prepare them well they may last. Try heating the pads before use, this dries them and makes them harder. you may get more miles from them.

or you overheat them and the friction material fall off.

allthegearnoidea

i got my pads from ebay seller 'Bikefridge'
sintered for the front were just over a tenner i think and the normal medium compound rears were around a fiver, with a couple of quid postage, arrived next day and very pleased with them!
good power from the fronts too!

Bmjboy

Cheers guys - for safety sake I will take 2 full bikes worth of pads with me (4 Pairs)

Dont want to be sitting around if I cant get hold of any pads while there!

My spare set here are Superstar standard/organic pads.

Should I be looking for sintered pads? - Superstar dont do my model in sintered, so would need to look elsewhere if I do.

thoughts?

Kiwi Kranker

ratty2k wrote:

3 sets in one ride (27 miler in the dark peak) 2 front and 1 rear set.
Have since changed to EBC gold pads, much better!

Jesus H Chirst!

That is insane.

Somebody manufacturing these is having a laugh at our expense. My Avid organics got me through last winter (just) though having read these Ill be taking spare pads with me as this winter comes along. Although I have never toasted a set in one ride but my bikes are lightish and I weigh about 80kg infact I barely go through a set every three to 6 months.....of course that could mean I am not riding in shite conditions enough....hmmmm

No hang on I have worked it out, the scarring on my arms and legs tells me I that I am sharing my braking out with the aid of trees and the ground, I always was good at sharing...

ratty2k

I was always (and still am) very selfish. I'm err about 30kg heavier than you... Did a ride round Nidderdale the other day and pads lasted all the way at 30 miles. Think a lot has to do with the initial bedding in as well as the area you ride. Had the brakes litterally smoking at the end of Shooting house descent. (nidderdale)

Bmjboy

I dont understand it though as Im still on my original Giant MPH pads which come with the bike, and Ive had the bike over 2 years now and done untold amount of miles!

Granted though, my off-road shennanigans really only started in the past 5 months, everything before that has been on roads and light toepaths.

Just find it hard to fathom that I may possibly go through 2 sets in an weekend when I get to Wales!!

Not that I mind, because Im going to be hammering the downhills as much as my body will let me!

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

ratty2k

Bmjboy wrote:

I dont understand it though as Im still on my original Giant MPH pads which come with the bike, and Ive had the bike over 2 years now and done untold amount of miles!

Granted though, my off-road shennanigans really only started in the past 5 months, everything before that has been on roads and light toepaths.

Just find it hard to fathom that I may possibly go through 2 sets in an weekend when I get to Wales!!

Not that I mind, because Im going to be hammering the downhills as much as my body will let me!

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Bit pedantic, but its tickled me up ^^^^^^ somewhere you have to tread lightly?

Bmjboy

ratty2k wrote:

Bit pedantic, but its tickled me up ^^^^^^ somewhere you have to tread lightly?

I know what I meant anyway!

My local paths have a no noise order, so I walk with slippers on a bit like the R-Whites secret lemonade drinker!

andrewjoseph

Skyline Cyles at Glyncorrwg and Afan sell pads, and there are some in the Afan centre as well.

ratty2k

Bmjboy wrote:

ratty2k wrote:

Bit pedantic, but its tickled me up ^^^^^^ somewhere you have to tread lightly?

I know what I meant anyway!

My local paths have a no noise order, so I walk with slippers on a bit like the R-Whites secret lemonade drinker!

Needed cheering up!