Garmin Edge 605.
Hi.
Thinking of getting this:
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/90 ... n-edge-605
Going to be travelling from manchester to york often and think this may be easier than using paper all the time.
The description is confusing.
Does the 605 detect your position and keep it updated as you move? Does it actually show any speed? If I got that should I keep my current speedo on as that shows Cadence and speed.
Also I notice it does not come with a Micro SD Card, do I need one to store routes in and do I need to buy a UK/ireland SD Card for coverage in the UK or will it come with that allready on?
Thanks
Will.
Thinking of getting this:
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/90 ... n-edge-605
Going to be travelling from manchester to york often and think this may be easier than using paper all the time.
The description is confusing.
Does the 605 detect your position and keep it updated as you move? Does it actually show any speed? If I got that should I keep my current speedo on as that shows Cadence and speed.
Also I notice it does not come with a Micro SD Card, do I need one to store routes in and do I need to buy a UK/ireland SD Card for coverage in the UK or will it come with that allready on?
Thanks
Will.
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My mate has got one, and I'm not convinced its worth the momey so far. Display is very small.
If you are doing the route often as you say - surely it would only be of use the first time ?0 -
I'm not good at remembering routes and I would of thought it would be useful for getting me out of manchester on many diffirent routes and avoiding the big roads.
I can print details of the route off from Google Maps to help me but would think that would be confusing just following via text and a couple of images.0 -
605 doesnt display cadence so expect you would want to keep your current computer for that unless you buy the 705 (extra 40-50 quid for HR strap, and you can get a cadence bit as well for extra cost and do talk to 3rd party power meters)
Maps that come with it are awful, expect to have to spend some money on those unless you have some maps from Garmin you can download to the device(most maps are locked to a GPS, but some like metroguide arnt butwont do auto routing on the device unless you hack them with a free program)
I love mine as i have the705 but only bought one as i destroyed my 305 and thought well im not replaceing it might as well get a new model.
If you are doing long rides and like me you keep forgetting the route or just hate paper mapss then its a great peice of kit but pricey, if it last as long as my 305 though until i smahsed it in a boot (2 years) i will be a happy man
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What maps will I have to get for the 605?
Whats autorouting? Where it constantly updates your position?0 -
I have a 205. Does a good job and was not much more than other decent computers. I like the fact I don't have to have sensors messing up the look of my best bike and enjoy the geeky side of analysing my routes etc after.0
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205 has no map on tho so how can you be sure its taking you the right way?0
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You can save routes to the unit. It will not show roads but has a simple line you can follow which for me has been nice and accurate. Saying that I tend to just go off exploring and if I like the route I took I will save it to the unit so I can follow it again at a future point.
You can also download routes from various sites or can plot your own out too. Then upload to the unit via USB and off you go.0 -
Oh and if your interested in one I got mine from PCWorld of all places. Paid £79.99 a few months back so it is worth checking there.0
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I'd rather have the 605 due to the colour and detailed display.
Just need to know what map software is the best.
City Navigator NT 2008??0 -
I bought a 605 and the NT City navigator maps a few weeks back, and think the whole thing is great. Only problem, I found was creating routes to use with it with fugawi, but managed to overcome this with GPSBabel. The manual is crap, but enough to get you started.
The device does keep track of where you are, and it will plot a route for you if you wish (autoroute), just enter the place you want to goto. It saves your home location (providing you tell it) and it'll take you home if you get lost. Also if you go off route, it recalculates a new route as you go. The display could be bigger, but is adequate, and you really must get the maps, as the supplied base map isn't good enough unless you like cycling major roads.0 -
What maps do I want? Does City Navigator NT 2008 have the maps on?
Is the GPS intelligent enough to know you are on a bike and not lead you on to say a motorway?
I can get the 605 for about 178 qid inc VAT and City Navigator 2008 for 10 quid.
Does the software also know what roads are one way in citys?0 -
NT City navigator Europe has all the minor roads as well as the major ones for UK,Ireland and Europe. Without this the basic maps are trunk roads and motorways, not much use to a cyclist.
The GPS will know if you want to avoid motorways, by using the settings option to tell it you are cycling, and wish to avoid major roads, also option to avoid unpaved roads.
Not sure about 1 way streets, not tried it yet, although I do seem to recall reading that it did know.0 -
So a Garmin Edge 605 and the NT City Navigator 2008 Software (CD/DVD) should have me all set and everything I need for journeys?
I'll be ordering tommorow and hopefully using it on Saturday to travel from Manchester to York which is about 62 miles, if it gets me there without any fuss I will be very happy and will be able to start cycling properly around Manchester too.0 -
definately worthwhile, its more like your car satnav then anything thats gone before.
here's the info on my ride today, loads of it!!
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/68108680 -
a_n_t wrote:definately worthwhile, its more like your car satnav then anything thats gone before.
here's the info on my ride today, loads of it!!
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/6810868
Aint you from Manchester Wheelers? I'm sure I recognise the link from there.
Have you got the 605 or 705?
At the moment I plan my routes using Google Maps, does the Garmin come with similar software that can do routes just as good? And have you heard of Bikely before? Maybe that would work?0 -
willhub wrote:
At the moment I plan my routes using Google Maps, does the Garmin come with similar software that can do routes just as good? And have you heard of Bikely before? Maybe that would work?
I use http://www.bikeroutetoaster.com for my route planning, create it as course points and you can directly output the TCX file to save on your 705 - really simple, and fantastic results.0 -
Is there no way to input from place to place on that bikeroutetoaster.com?
Will I be wanting to use Auto Route points and Course points? Do these points give information such as move into middle lane etc...?
Seems confusing, speed on flat, do I just keep that at 30mph?0 -
willhub wrote:Is there no way to input from place to place on that bikeroutetoaster.com?
Will I be wanting to use Auto Route points and Course points? Do these points give information such as move into middle lane etc...?
Yep, you can put in a start and a finish, you just need to put the two course points in on the map.
Course points will be useful ("turn right in 100 meters") but not necessary, but the granularity of information for any of the online mappers is not down to the lane required. I'm sure that's not too necessary for most people that can read the road ahead....
Anyhow, the real value of BRT for me is to plot an exact route, road by road to avoid the main roads, and give the nicest route to cycle on. As an example, here's yesterday's fantastic route: http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=11909 with the recording from my 705 here: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/860889. Using those two sites I can store and share rides with friends.0 -
Whats it mean when part is red and other part is purple?
Any settings on the right need changing?0 -
willhub wrote:Whats it mean when part is red and other part is purple?
Any settings on the right need changing?
No idea on the colours! I have to say that I use mine on the maps view, not satellite. I can get a route to go green when I hover over part of it, but never seen red! Always see blue.
The settings look pretty familiar though, apart from being able to keep up 30mph on the flat for that distance :shock:
Have you saved the route, and can you post a link?
Cheers,
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willhub wrote:
Aint you from Manchester Wheelers? I'm sure I recognise the link from there.
yup
705willhub wrote:Have you got the 605 or 705?willhub wrote:At the moment I plan my routes using Google Maps, does the Garmin come with similar software that can do routes just as good?
i use mapsource but you need to buy it.willhub wrote:And have you heard of Bikely before? Maybe that would work?
theres loads of online route planners that work as stated above but you/ll definately need the city navigator maps to get the best out of the 605/7050 -
So using bike route toaster, and City Navigator NT 2008 and a 605 have I got everything I need to buy to get going and then all I got to do is learn it all yea?
I just want to make sure I have everything I need.0 -
willhub wrote:So using bike route toaster, and City Navigator NT 2008 and a 605 have I got everything I need to buy to get going and then all I got to do is learn it all yea?
I just want to make sure I have everything I need.
That will be fine - if I were you I'd get CN 2008 on a DVD rather than memory card, you'll get Mapsource that way. If you do, you'll need to get a MicroSD card to put the maps on - a 2Gb will be enough and they cost almost nothing http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/203-2929387-6582359?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=microsd+2gb&x=0&y=0
Be careful with buying CN 2008 for only £10, you may get less than you bargained for!
Just a quick query on buying the 605 rather than the 705 - are you down to a budget? I only ask as the HRM and cadence / speed functionality on the 705 are the bits that make it a serious cycling tool rather than "just a GPS that happens to have a bike mount".
Cheers,
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I'm on a budget, student loan you see but I hope to get a job eventually.
I may go for the 705 still but I have cadence on my cateye speedo and that can stay on.
The one for 10 quid is on eBay and it is on CD.
Why will I need an SD card for maps? I thought the edge had enough memory built in?
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/12 ... -europe-nt
Is that the right software?
I also notice on the site when I type in Edge 605 there is a bike mounting kit, wont it come with the right things to mount it??0 -
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willhub wrote:I also notice on the site when I type in Edge 605 there is a bike mounting kit, wont it come with the right things to mount it??
When I got my *cough* 205 *cough* it came with the mounting bits - can't imagine the 605/705 wouldn't now.
Andy0 -
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/1259/garmin-map-update-2008-city-navigator--europe-nt
Is that the right software?
I also notice on the site when I type in Edge 605 there is a bike mounting kit, wont it come with the right things to mount it??
"This update is only compatible with nüvi, zûmo and StreetPilot c5XX series." - that's worrying!
The 605 should come with a mounting kit, but you can buy spares for mounting on additional bikes. Reading down the specs, it says:
What's in the Box: Garmin Edge 605
Garmin Edge 605
Bike mounts
AC charger
USB cable
Owner's manual on disk
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Ah, silly me should of read.
Odd that its not supported there as that software is supported on other sites O_o0 -
Ordered the Edge 605 and a 2GB SD Card.
Should be here tommorow so I can have a play around with it
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There are plenty of free maps out there which seem to work OK, although routing appears to be in its infancy. Some of them are optimised for cycle routes. Look at the sources on this link.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php ... n/Download
All you have to do is download the file, create a folder called garmin on the SD card and place the file in the folder. The device automatically supplements the pre-loaded base map with the one on the card. If you want topo maps, try the Scottish Mountaineering Councils' website.
Cheers, Tonys0
